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the planet i'm yours jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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how are you doing wow what a great week

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right here dave schrader star of the

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holzer files and darkness radio

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joining us tonight full night of ghost

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i have seen the film i've seen the film

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absolutely incredible you can check it

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movies getting caught up on tv series uh

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what french fries

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tonight dave schrader is here we've got

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a great week lined up

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i hope that everybody had a great

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now uh really quick let's get some stuff

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the crew won astronauts

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i got my baby yoda over there

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baby yoda's floating around and had like

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mike hopkins pilot victor glover mission

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specialist shannon walker walker also

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bottles to drink in space that was

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was involved in a dramatic collision

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with a brown bear

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while landing on saturday night the

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impact of the crash

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killed the bear but it's cub because

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there was two bears

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right the cub miraculously survived the

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incident

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the uh the big bear knows a big bear

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caused significant damage

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to the engine cowl you should see the

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pictures too of the jet during the

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bizarre encounter

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at yakutat airport in alaska

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airport staff had cleared the runway uh

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in the southeast alaska airport about 10

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minutes prior to the landing

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however the pilots powered down the jet

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following touchdown and they spotted the

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two bears crossing the runway

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there's uh only half of the airport is

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fenced in

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that's right yeah pretty crazy

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well tonight not one

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but five asteroids will enter our

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backyard first up is

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2020 vr4 measuring 27 meters

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in diameter it's gonna pass earth at

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about 2.2 million kilometers shortly

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after that

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will be the closest encounter as the 11

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meter 2020 vm5

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uh heads past us at only 426 000

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kilometers

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and if you think about that the moon is

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239 000 miles away

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at 385 000 kilometers

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so that's a close close drive-by right

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there bringing up the rear tonight are

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the 9 meter 2020 v8 at a distance of 4.2

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million kilometers

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the 13-meter 2020 vs1 at 2.8 million

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kilometers

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and lastly will be 2020 vb3

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measuring only four meters at 589

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000 kilometers also very close just past

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the moon let's get this show cracking

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happy birthday to today

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missy pyle is 48 years old

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and she played la laliari

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on a galaxy quest and uh

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yes she was the one that's her right

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happy birthday missy pyle

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jazz pianist and singer diana crawl

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today is 56 and fade or not

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monica today is 50. monica wrote me a

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letter she wrote me an email and said

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hey you never announced birthdays for

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november 16th well i've got one for you

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how about me and today i'm 50. so happy

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birthday today

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wc

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handy 1873 to 1958 died at the age of 84

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he's known as the father of the blues

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william was one of the most influential

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songwriters in the united states

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and although he did not create the blues

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but he was the first to publish it

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made it famous and mainstream handy was

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born in memphis

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and died in new york city at the age of

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84. on this day

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as part of operation paperclip the

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united states ships 88 german scientists

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to america to assist the nation in its

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production of rocket technology

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the media reporters and photographers

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were not allowed to interview any of

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them or photographed

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the event how crazy is that on this day

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operation paper clip vader fact all

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right

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most korean people don't have

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right only .006

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of the korean population have the abc

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c 11 gene which is the cause

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of armpit odor as a result

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it's hard to find deodorants they don't

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sell them

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seriously i i just had to share that

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with you that's absolutely too

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incredible

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drop that knowledge at a party drop that

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knowledge

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you can have somebody korean in the

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background that's true i've

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i've never used deodorant that's crazy

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tonight dave schroeder is here star of

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tomorrow night rick delano is here

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writer and producer

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of the new hit film the end of quantum

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reality

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wednesday night stephen bassett is here

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talking about the new biden

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administration disclosure

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and the ufo question thursday nights

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another fader night with open lines all

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night long

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all right let me hit this river moon

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coffee you see me chugging this through

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the whole show

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yes yes dan you do understand that line

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from

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walking in memphis now i know right

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okay well it's like this everybody needs

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remember cambridge analytica

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of course you do remember the

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outrage do you remember how

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angry you were right

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well to refresh your memory a little bit

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let me remind you that cambridge

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analytica

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was a british political consulting firm

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that was involved in influencing

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hundreds of elections around the world

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and was at the center of the facebook

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cambridge

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analytica data scandal

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remember all of that hearings congress

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the senate

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cambridge analytica was involved in so

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many countries and elections

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that i don't have the time to mention

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them all right now

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but they set up shop in australia the uk

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india kenya malta mexico and of course

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now i don't do politics

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but i love the conspiracy of politics

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so check this out cambridge analytica

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from now on i'm just gonna say ca right

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from this point on in the rant but

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cambridge analytica entered the u.s

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market in 2012

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and was involved in 44 u.s congressional

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u.s senate and state level elections

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in the 2014 united states elections

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it gets crazier though ca's involvement

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in the 2016 republican party

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presidential primaries became known in

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july 2015

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when ca claimed to have collected up to

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5 000 data points on

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over 220 million

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americans that's 5 000 points of data on

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each

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individual amounting to 220 million

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selling their data directly to

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candidates in the race

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and the law firm representing ca

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with them getting involved in any

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elections in the united states

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bracewell and giuliani

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that's right mayor rudolph giuliani

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now rudy left the firm in 2016 after the

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elections

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to work for the new well president

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donald trump now i'm not going to get

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into what ca was doing in the u.s since

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2012 through 2016.

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that's all well documented at this point

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but let's just say this cambridge

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analytica knew how to influence

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any population anywhere in the world

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total professionals in the psyop

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the absolute best

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and they did it all for the money

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so i'll ask you again do you remember

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00:23:24,149 --> 00:23:22,000
how angry you

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00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:24,159
were when you found out that facebook

463
00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:26,320
was selling your data to cambridge

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00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:28,880
do you remember that ca bragged about

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having

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5 000 data points on over 220 million

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00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:33,280
americans and that

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includes you

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00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:41,679
cambridge analytica said directly

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that the company had worked in more than

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200

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00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:47,600
elections around the world including

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india pakistan

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thailand indonesia malaysia colombia

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cyprus zambia south africa romania

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italy lithuania trinidad tobago

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00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:00,960
nigeria the czech republic argentina

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the philippines and brazil a total of 68

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on may 1st 2018 cambridge

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analytica closed its doors

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ospix international was launched by

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cambridge analytica staff

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a company intended to influence politics

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and society in

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africa and the middle east data

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propria is a data analysis firm launched

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in may 2018 by former executives

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of cambridge analytica

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emmer data was founded and is

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in the old cambridge analytica offices

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i'll get back to emmerdale in just a bit

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but

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one principal founder

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and investor in cambridge analytica

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was one robert mercer now

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00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:12,840
robert is rich really really

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rich he's a head fung head

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hedge fudge manager computer scientist

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also into artificial intelligence he's a

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researcher and a developer

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and former co-ceo of the hedge fund

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company renaissance technologies

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yeah and that should scare you

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00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:40,960
but he was also a partner and

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shareholder in

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wait for it breitbart

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00:25:54,070 --> 00:25:53,190
but let us continue because it gets

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better

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i promise back to emmerdata

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the new data acquisition firm that is

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currently in the old ca

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offices doing the same thing by the way

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00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:08,159
selling your data to influence society

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and elections all around the world

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one of the founders and ambassadors in

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amer data

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is rebecca mercer

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daughter of robert mercer

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robert mercer sold his stake in

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breitbart

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00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:27,760
news network too wait for it

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his daughter rebecca

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00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:33,760
now i can't make this stuff up that's

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right

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00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:37,760
cambridge analytica and emmer were

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00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:38,559
founded by

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one of the new owners of breitbart news

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00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:48,390
what could go wrong this is one of the

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00:26:51,269 --> 00:26:50,640
craziest rabbit holes that anyone can go

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down

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and just when you thought it couldn't

532
00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:55,200
get any nuttier

533
00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:01,590
if you are an heiress to billions of

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00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,960
dollars

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00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:04,559
and you are in the business of

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00:27:09,909 --> 00:27:07,520
influencing the minds of the planet

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00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:09,919
collecting and selling personal data on

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private individuals

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00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:13,760
getting involved in world politics with

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00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:15,840
conspiracy theories

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00:27:20,230 --> 00:27:19,360
you are a reporter partner in a major

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00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:20,240
news media

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00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:24,159
company so what do you do next

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00:27:31,029 --> 00:27:27,600
go to disneyland

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00:27:34,389 --> 00:27:31,039
yes you do you see

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00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:34,399
rebecca mercer decided the next move to

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control

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00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:40,559
minds is to start a social media network

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00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:43,679
so she and her partners john

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00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:47,039
mats and jared thompson founded

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00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:52,080
parlor as of june 2020

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parlor has been funded by angel

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investors no advertising

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00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:00,000
nope no revenue or income

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00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:03,120
nope just doing it for fun

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00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:06,399
they currently have 30 employees

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00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:08,640
how are they getting paid no advertising

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00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:09,440
right

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00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:12,880
think about this the company has refused

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00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:15,200
to disclose the identity of its owners

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00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:16,880
until now

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00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:21,279
john mats has confirmed in a parlor post

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00:28:28,950 --> 00:28:24,640
that robert and rebecca mercer were

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00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:28,960
funding parlor now this is the true king

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00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:30,399
of all rabbit holes

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00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:33,600
robert and rebecca mercer from founding

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00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:35,039
cambridge analytica

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00:28:40,389 --> 00:28:38,480
to parlor and everything in between

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00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:40,399
now you can research everything that i

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00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:41,760
presented here

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all of it is now in the public domain

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and fully documented all of it

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there is so much more to the story that

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can't be presented because of space and

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time but

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i'll say this when you do your research

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you'll see the names of political

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figures organizations and companies that

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are currently in play not only

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in this country but all around the world

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now can parlor be nothing but an

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extension of the cambridge analytica

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business model

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news network emmer data

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i don't know but there is one person

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that seems to be at the center of it all

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rebecca

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mercer so i'll ask you once again

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do you remember how outraged you were

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to find out about cambridge analytica

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how outraged were you you were angry

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well if you are a parlor user

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how do you feel that your new platform

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was founded

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funded owned and paid for by a

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founder of cambridge

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now go and post comment

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and play a part in the mind control game

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that is the new

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social media network

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seriously rebecca mercer owns emmerdata

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a data collection company

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shareholder in breitbart news network

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and is the founder and funder of

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parlor so i'll say it again what could

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go wrong

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she no longer has to buy or sell your

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data

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or chase it down because she already

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owns it and can share it with any of her

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companies

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or her friends now

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if the original parlor marketing was

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honest and transparent

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with you know i'll quote here the

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founders of cambridge analytica

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announced a new social media platform

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come join us over on parlor

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we won't sell your data we promise

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we'll just share it with our friends for

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free yeah

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this is fade to black i am your host

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jimmy church tonight

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right here dave schrader

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tonight and tomorrow night rick delano

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what's up i'm chris what up this is kyle

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight dave

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schrader

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tomorrow night right here rick delano

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reality wednesday night steven bassett

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night fader night open lines online long

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but tonight it's all about dave schrader

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we're going to be talking about ghosts

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the paranormal and supernatural

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all night long including season 3 of the

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holzer files

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and this week's very special episode

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that is airing thursday night we'll be

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talking about all of that

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and of course he is the host of the

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long-running paranormal podcast darkness

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radio and is the host of the holzer

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he has lived a life immersed in the

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they always find

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dave that's right he is trying to

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understand his place in the universe

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and the afterlife dave are you getting

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close

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nowhere near but i'm not in any hurry to

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figure out the afterlife just yet jimmy

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because that means i'm probably a little

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bit closer than i want to be

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right you got that right you know i i uh

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uh last night i was listening uh to uh

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one of sean carroll's the physicist uh

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his

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out something i've talked about in the

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past

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but it was really crazy he's like you

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only if you live to the age of 70

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you got about 25 000 days on the planet

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that's it

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you've got three billion heartbeats

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that's it you know how many of those

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heartbeats have you used up you know how

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you know and i'm thinking about i'm

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doing the math in my head right i'm like

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i'm 57

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okay 13 years uh

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they're coming into the end of your uh

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your billing cycle that's for sure

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man i i just wasn't digging it man i was

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like

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wow i sit there and i face the same

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thing you know unfortunately yesterday

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and she lived to be 70 my grandfather

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lived to be 70. i'm about to turn 53

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and boy that puts mortality in a weird

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range when

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when you're a kid and you're thinking

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so old 40. i can't even imagine 50 are

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you kidding me

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and now i'm staring down the barrel i'm

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i'm only 17 years away from

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70. and you're like wait what yeah i

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i used to i know i used to pose that

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question uh to my friends and i did this

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like 20 years ago

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you know when i'm in my 30s right and i

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would go to my 30 year old friends i'd

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say okay hey

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all right you live to the age of 70. is

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that 25 000 days

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is that 250 000 days

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or is it 2.5 million days and they would

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sit down that's

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two and a half million days i think

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right

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no it's 25 000. and then

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what right and they would start doing

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the math you mean i've only got

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15 000 days left and it's

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really it really it really puts it all

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into context when you look at the

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eternity of the universe right goes on

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forever

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our little our little spot here is very

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finite and we need to make the best of

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it don't we

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nice nice way to put this in everybody's

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head before bed jimmy now they're all

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just gonna lay their pondering their

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mortality they'll be like god what

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how many have only if i make it to 70

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that's only like 1500 more days that

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seems like way too short of time

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wait a minute how how does that work

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make it count man

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that's what i can say that's all you can

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do make it count now uh

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listen i i want to say this really quick

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dave you and i

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um have a great relationship and i love

850
00:40:33,990 --> 00:40:32,400
having uh you on the show or me on your

851
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:34,000
show we always have a great conversation

852
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:35,520
but the audience

853
00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:38,240
responding uh to you coming on the show

854
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:38,800
tonight

855
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:41,359
and the excitement that is out there man

856
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:43,040
i just got to thank you for that

857
00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:45,599
uh you're the very best and and you run

858
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:46,720
with integrity

859
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:48,800
and it it resonates throughout the

860
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:50,800
community so you know thank you for that

861
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:52,800
thank you for being who you are

862
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:54,880
all right thank you i appreciate that

863
00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:57,119
that's very kind and i appreciate uh you

864
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:57,920
bringing me on

865
00:41:01,589 --> 00:40:59,760
you know i just hit you up the other day

866
00:41:03,190 --> 00:41:01,599
this episode coming up means a lot to me

867
00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:03,200
and i wanted to try to make sure that we

868
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:04,960
present it and get it out to the biggest

869
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:06,079
broadest

870
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:08,480
bases i could and you're always at the

871
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:10,079
top of my list to get out there and try

872
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:11,359
to make sure that people are aware of

873
00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:12,960
stuff so thanks for giving me that

874
00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:15,200
that platform tonight yeah absolutely uh

875
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:17,680
i bounced uh graham hancock tonight

876
00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:19,760
and rescheduled him for a couple of

877
00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:21,520
weeks to get you on the show

878
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:23,359
thank you so you are that important to

879
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:24,800
me

880
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:29,359
don't know

881
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:32,640
he did i bet he did now

882
00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:36,160
before we get started here um i wanted

883
00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:38,560
to uh uh kind of backpedal a little bit

884
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:40,880
because we just came off of halloween

885
00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:45,040
and uh and as you know i was i went down

886
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:46,000
to uh

887
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:48,160
to investigate the queen mary and i had

888
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:49,760
a couple of pretty incredible things

889
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:51,359
that happened down there

890
00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:54,720
but um as i walked away um

891
00:41:58,950 --> 00:41:56,800
that night and i'm getting into my car

892
00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:58,960
the only i've got rita on the phone and

893
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:00,560
she goes well how'd it go

894
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:03,040
i said that boat is haunted i'm just

895
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:04,800
telling you right now

896
00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:06,880
you how many times have you done

897
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:09,119
investigations at the queen mary

898
00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:12,160
ah boy i think we did over a dozen it

899
00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:14,079
was between 12 and 15

900
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:16,720
um times that i did investigations and

901
00:42:19,910 --> 00:42:18,240
that was with the broad

902
00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:19,920
darkness radio events we were doing two

903
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:21,440
or three there a year

904
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:23,440
for a number of years and then we um i

905
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:24,560
would also go there with

906
00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:26,640
smaller groups of friends to investigate

907
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:29,119
and and uh erica frost and

908
00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:30,800
bill murphy and a few other people that

909
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:32,480
would get me into places that normally

910
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:33,920
would not be available and and

911
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:35,280
i don't think i've ever been there where

912
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:37,760
there hasn't been really weird

913
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:41,599
things taking place um you know we went

914
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:43,920
my first event i was supposed to have um

915
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:46,000
peter james join us i just had him on a

916
00:42:49,109 --> 00:42:48,000
radio show and he was a delight we hit

917
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:49,119
it off and

918
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:50,560
he was excited to be a part of it and

919
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:52,480
then unfortunately he passed away

920
00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:54,000
just like a month or two before the

921
00:42:58,309 --> 00:42:56,400
event and i got there a few days early

922
00:43:00,230 --> 00:42:58,319
and i went investigating with um erica

923
00:43:00,870 --> 00:43:00,240
frost who is the medium on board the

924
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:00,880
ship

925
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:02,720
and bill murphy a paranormal

926
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:04,560
investigator from factor faked and a

927
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:06,000
documentarian from

928
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:08,160
ghost towns dot tv that's done a bunch

929
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:09,359
of paranormal

930
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:12,960
programming and we were down in the um

931
00:43:17,109 --> 00:43:15,440
the whole of the ship we were just kind

932
00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:17,119
of talking and i started discussing the

933
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:18,319
fact that i really wished

934
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:20,800
peter could have been here i really wish

935
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:21,520
i could have

936
00:43:29,829 --> 00:43:24,720
met him and not not 10 15 seconds later

937
00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:32,150
oh man this this almost darth vadery

938
00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:33,920
like something trying to grasp a breath

939
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:36,079
and unfortunately peter had lost i i

940
00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:37,280
don't know if it was emphysema or what

941
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:38,800
but he was having a lot of trouble

942
00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:41,040
breathing at the end and

943
00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:43,280
his his life had been turned upside down

944
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:44,400
and

945
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:47,839
we'd go over to one corner where we

946
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:49,280
swore we could hear this breathing

947
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:50,160
coming from

948
00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:51,440
and then it would be over on the other

949
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:53,200
side but i really felt like

950
00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:55,760
peter james was there with us and we

951
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:57,440
were all hearing this breathing

952
00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:00,560
this communication and uh that was

953
00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:02,000
that was kind of one of my first

954
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:03,680
introductions to just how

955
00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:06,400
crazy this place was and then you know

956
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:07,680
for years we just had

957
00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:10,480
off the charts activity of jackie the

958
00:44:13,829 --> 00:44:11,680
ghost and

959
00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:13,839
the spirits down in the engine room and

960
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:15,520
the the gentleman that was crushed in

961
00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:16,319
the door

962
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:19,520
and uh it was it was stunning and i'm

963
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:20,960
really excited

964
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:22,640
um before you guys went in for the big

965
00:44:25,109 --> 00:44:24,640
halloween program we got to go in and

966
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:25,119
film

967
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:26,800
an episode or i think it's going to be

968
00:44:31,349 --> 00:44:28,640
our season finale i think

969
00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:31,359
of holzer's uh holzer files on travel

970
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:32,160
channel um

971
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:34,240
and we were the first team to ever get

972
00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:36,160
full access to the ship

973
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:39,599
with no employees no guests

974
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:42,720
nothing and we went in there and it had

975
00:44:46,390 --> 00:44:45,119
such a different vibe than it had ever

976
00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:46,400
had for me before

977
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:50,079
and it was really dark and and

978
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:52,000
weird to be aboard that ship with no

979
00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:54,000
lifeblood of humanity kind of roaming

980
00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:55,599
those halls and in the bars and in the

981
00:44:58,950 --> 00:44:56,720
restaurants it was

982
00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:58,960
it was off-putting to say the least now

983
00:45:02,790 --> 00:45:00,960
um i want to say this before i get to my

984
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:02,800
first point i've got a very direct

985
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:04,720
question to ask you but

986
00:45:11,349 --> 00:45:08,400
that ship is bleeping beautiful right

987
00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:11,359
yeah right you hear about it you see

988
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:12,880
things and movies and

989
00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:16,400
and all but you get on board

990
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:20,079
and and you see it every corner

991
00:45:26,069 --> 00:45:23,119
every wall every doorway every room

992
00:45:28,550 --> 00:45:26,079
everything is majestic and beautiful and

993
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:28,560
artistic and aesthetic it's it's just

994
00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:30,800
incredible isn't it

995
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:32,800
it is i think if i remember correctly

996
00:45:37,270 --> 00:45:35,040
what the uh commodore told me

997
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:37,280
i think there's like the wood paneling

998
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:38,160
throughout the ship

999
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:40,560
there's some of the wood is from trees

1000
00:45:43,829 --> 00:45:41,920
that no longer exist

1001
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:43,839
sure i can believe that that have been

1002
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:46,720
like they're now extinct wood and that's

1003
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:49,680
this part of the the the story but i

1004
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:51,200
mean you realize all the things this was

1005
00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:52,720
a luxury liner

1006
00:45:55,829 --> 00:45:54,560
and you know it we kind of break break

1007
00:45:58,150 --> 00:45:55,839
it down with the commodore

1008
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:58,160
the ship had you know this great idea

1009
00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:59,280
behind it and it

1010
00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:01,200
they got all excited and they got ready

1011
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:02,960
to make it and then it sat there kind of

1012
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:03,920
unfinished

1013
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:05,520
and then it got finished and then it was

1014
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:07,920
put into call as a a luxury liner

1015
00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:10,240
and then it got docked and became the

1016
00:46:14,150 --> 00:46:11,599
grey ghost became

1017
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:14,160
this warship and then it became this

1018
00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:16,560
transport unit for

1019
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:19,119
wartime brides and their families and

1020
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:20,400
children and then

1021
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:22,960
it you know became a luxury liner again

1022
00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:24,400
and then found its way into

1023
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:27,680
a long beach port where it docked and

1024
00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:30,960
was you know in 1967 then turned into

1025
00:46:34,630 --> 00:46:33,520
uh the hotel and the resort that it is

1026
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:34,640
now and

1027
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:37,119
it's had a long interesting life and and

1028
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:38,480
really this

1029
00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:40,319
covid crisis is the first time there

1030
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:42,079
hasn't been activity aboard that ship

1031
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:43,200
since it was built

1032
00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:46,079
yeah it was incredible for me to walk

1033
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:46,560
down

1034
00:46:51,430 --> 00:46:50,079
and and really appreciate the size and

1035
00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:51,440
and the beauty of it it's just an

1036
00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:53,280
incredible ship now

1037
00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:56,960
you mentioned the the breathing

1038
00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:59,040
and now this is where i want you to put

1039
00:47:01,990 --> 00:47:01,119
your professional investigator hat on

1040
00:47:05,550 --> 00:47:02,000
because

1041
00:47:08,069 --> 00:47:05,560
uh for me this was my first time

1042
00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:08,079
experiencing uh you know this type of

1043
00:47:12,069 --> 00:47:09,520
investigation

1044
00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:12,079
um and to have the things happen that

1045
00:47:14,950 --> 00:47:12,640
did

1046
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:14,960
i am so appreciative of the moment that

1047
00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:16,319
you know i could have walked away and

1048
00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:19,760
had uh nothing to experience but

1049
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:23,040
i had this voice uh that we all heard

1050
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:26,160
in uh the uh

1051
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:28,800
uh winston churchill suite and it was a

1052
00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:31,119
female's voice but this is the thing

1053
00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:33,200
about the voice there was it didn't come

1054
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:34,640
from a mouth

1055
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:38,480
and it seemed like it came from because

1056
00:47:42,309 --> 00:47:39,839
you just mentioned this

1057
00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:42,319
it seemed like it came from everywhere i

1058
00:47:46,390 --> 00:47:43,680
want to say it came from my

1059
00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:46,400
right tony rathman thought that it came

1060
00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:48,160
from behind him

1061
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:51,440
i really wasn't sure but it felt like it

1062
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:52,000
came in that

1063
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:56,079
direction but it also felt like

1064
00:48:00,630 --> 00:47:58,800
the word i want to use is like telepathy

1065
00:48:01,829 --> 00:48:00,640
right am i even saying that right

1066
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:01,839
because it's not

1067
00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:06,079
coming from a mouth right that's what

1068
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:08,160
telepathy is is it's this exchange of

1069
00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:09,920
energy it's this message

1070
00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:13,359
transmitted from one being

1071
00:48:17,109 --> 00:48:15,680
to another without the spoken word so

1072
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:17,119
yeah you were you were getting a sense

1073
00:48:20,309 --> 00:48:18,400
of telepathy

1074
00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:20,319
is that the way that it happens with you

1075
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:22,160
when you hear these voices not in that

1076
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:23,920
you know we're not talking about evps

1077
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:24,800
everybody

1078
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:28,880
right about loud dvp is what it's called

1079
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:29,359
direct

1080
00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:31,200
voice phenomena where you don't have to

1081
00:48:33,750 --> 00:48:32,960
record it and listen back you actually

1082
00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:33,760
hear

1083
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:36,960
the voices out loud and and

1084
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:39,520
do you do you have the same experience

1085
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:40,400
where it seems to

1086
00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:43,119
envelop you it's really not from you you

1087
00:48:47,750 --> 00:48:45,599
can't pinpoint it

1088
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:47,760
oh yeah definitely and you you start to

1089
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:48,880
think well

1090
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:50,480
you know how come only a few of us heard

1091
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:52,319
it and others didn't you know are we

1092
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:54,079
is there really something to the

1093
00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:55,440
frequency

1094
00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:58,160
to which these spirits are speaking and

1095
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:59,839
you know it could explain why jimmy

1096
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:00,880
church and dave schrader could be

1097
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:03,200
standing side by side and i hear

1098
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:06,720
get out and you hear nothing or you hear

1099
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:08,960
breathing or something and and i can't

1100
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:11,280
are we just kind of sinked into that

1101
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:14,960
um into that frequency of the other side

1102
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:16,319
you know and and that they're able to

1103
00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:18,240
communicate with us are they resonating

1104
00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:20,240
at the same level we are

1105
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:23,599
can you um uh

1106
00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:26,800
how do i say this when you

1107
00:49:30,069 --> 00:49:29,040
hear it live and then you go back and

1108
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:30,079
you review the video

1109
00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:32,400
tape maybe audio you know digital

1110
00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:33,200
recorder

1111
00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:35,599
i said videotape the video the digital

1112
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:36,720
video

1113
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:40,160
i just aged myself uh do you

1114
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:42,000
normally hear the same things or is it

1115
00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:44,400
sometimes even different then

1116
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:47,839
well you know in this um

1117
00:49:51,990 --> 00:49:49,920
we get some strange phenomena like we

1118
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:52,000
got last week on the episode where we

1119
00:49:56,549 --> 00:49:53,839
visited surat tavern

1120
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,559
in uh maryland uh this location where

1121
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:58,160
john wilkes booth rode to after

1122
00:50:03,349 --> 00:49:59,520
assassinating president

1123
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:03,359
lincoln um cindy captures this kind of

1124
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:05,920
low we're standing side by side we both

1125
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:07,280
have our recorders out in front of us

1126
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:07,839
and you hear

1127
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:11,200
on her recorder you hear this kind of

1128
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:14,640
and nothing on my recorder

1129
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:16,000
and they're right next to each other

1130
00:50:20,549 --> 00:50:18,319
during that evp session

1131
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:20,559
so i can't explain why one recorder will

1132
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:22,480
pick it up the others won't uh i had a

1133
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:23,920
really strange example

1134
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:26,640
at uh rolling hills asylum we were there

1135
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:29,119
with mark and debbie constantino the evp

1136
00:50:32,309 --> 00:50:29,760
experts

1137
00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:32,319
who sadly we lost five years ago and my

1138
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:33,920
friend susan and

1139
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:35,920
susan was running the evp session she

1140
00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:37,280
was asking questions and we were all

1141
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:38,800
sitting in this little circle

1142
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:40,720
and you know we all had our recorders

1143
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:42,000
out in front of us almost you know

1144
00:50:45,829 --> 00:50:43,440
touching each other and

1145
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:45,839
and susan says is this the room where

1146
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:48,559
the little boy likes to come play

1147
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:51,599
and we play back her evp and you hear

1148
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:52,559
her voice and

1149
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:54,000
she's asking the questions and then you

1150
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:56,160
hear her voice clearly say is this

1151
00:51:00,390 --> 00:50:57,760
the room where the little boy likes to

1152
00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:00,400
come play and mark and debbie play back

1153
00:51:04,870 --> 00:51:02,480
their recorders and on mark's recorder

1154
00:51:07,349 --> 00:51:04,880
you clearly hear susan say is this the

1155
00:51:09,910 --> 00:51:07,359
room where the little girl likes to play

1156
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:09,920
so her voice had been manipulated and it

1157
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:11,920
was a totally different question

1158
00:51:15,349 --> 00:51:14,960
or or you know a boy or girl and you

1159
00:51:17,349 --> 00:51:15,359
could

1160
00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:17,359
very clearly hear it was girl she asked

1161
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:18,400
on his recorder

1162
00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:20,160
boy on theirs i don't know what their

1163
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:22,000
capability is of

1164
00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:23,760
of being able to manipulate these

1165
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:25,119
frequencies and

1166
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:27,839
and make themselves heard or what you

1167
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:29,920
know obviously there's no vocal cords

1168
00:51:34,150 --> 00:51:32,400
as a spirit so they're working the air

1169
00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:34,160
they're working the vibration

1170
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:36,880
of our eardrums of the audio recorders

1171
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:38,400
or impressing the magnetic

1172
00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:41,520
um resonance onto it i that's

1173
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:43,920
that's our theories right i i can't say

1174
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:45,920
specifically how it's being done

1175
00:51:49,829 --> 00:51:48,240
or why it's being done but it's it's

1176
00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:49,839
pretty remarkable and you we get some

1177
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:50,800
bizarre

1178
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:52,720
activity uh around each other we've

1179
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:54,160
heard dvp

1180
00:51:58,230 --> 00:51:57,040
where our recorder got nothing not one

1181
00:52:00,870 --> 00:51:58,240
lick of audio

1182
00:52:02,390 --> 00:52:00,880
that you could hear on it now how do you

1183
00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:02,400
approach

1184
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:05,920
your questions do you put your questions

1185
00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:08,400
into the period where you're talking

1186
00:52:12,069 --> 00:52:08,960
about

1187
00:52:13,829 --> 00:52:12,079
1870 you know put yourself in the period

1188
00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:13,839
or do you put yourself in the modern

1189
00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:15,200
context

1190
00:52:19,829 --> 00:52:17,280
where you're just having a conversation

1191
00:52:23,589 --> 00:52:19,839
about today how do you approach it

1192
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:23,599
i you know verily doth

1193
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:25,680
come forth and speaketh with us right i

1194
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:27,760
mean like idiots doing that it would be

1195
00:52:29,829 --> 00:52:28,480
embarrassing

1196
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:29,839
i think you know if the spirits are

1197
00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:31,520
there they're kind of aware

1198
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:34,240
as well and get the concept of what

1199
00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:36,000
we're discussing so

1200
00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:38,880
um there have been times where i've you

1201
00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:39,680
know when i was in

1202
00:52:43,109 --> 00:52:41,119
savannah georgia i was doing an

1203
00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:43,119
investigation and this team wanted to

1204
00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:44,000
show

1205
00:52:47,430 --> 00:52:45,839
darkness dave how a professional team

1206
00:52:48,549 --> 00:52:47,440
investigates and they went in and they

1207
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:48,559
were very

1208
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:51,280
um they were great people very nice very

1209
00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:52,400
sweet people but they were very

1210
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:54,319
demanding of the spirits

1211
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:55,440
and but they weren't getting any

1212
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:56,400
response they're like i don't know

1213
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:57,359
what's happening

1214
00:53:01,910 --> 00:53:00,160
i i don't understand why they're not

1215
00:53:02,630 --> 00:53:01,920
responding and i said well first of all

1216
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:02,640
we're in an

1217
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:05,040
this old antebellum mansion that was

1218
00:53:09,270 --> 00:53:06,480
overtaken

1219
00:53:10,150 --> 00:53:09,280
by the north and used as a stronghold

1220
00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:10,160
for a short time

1221
00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:12,559
this family was kind of uh dis

1222
00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:14,480
disenfranchised from their own home

1223
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:16,400
and you come in and you're all where are

1224
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:18,000
you why are you here but

1225
00:53:22,309 --> 00:53:20,720
and and i i turned around and i started

1226
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:22,319
i just want to thank you mr and mrs

1227
00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:22,880
blossom

1228
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:24,640
for allowing us into your home it's

1229
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:27,040
beautiful i can see why you would want

1230
00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:28,319
to stay here

1231
00:53:31,829 --> 00:53:31,040
but i'm curious as to why you try to

1232
00:53:33,990 --> 00:53:31,839
frighten

1233
00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:34,000
some of these people and i come with

1234
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:35,520
love and respect and i just want to

1235
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:38,160
understand your story so we can tell it

1236
00:53:42,630 --> 00:53:40,960
and tell it right and are you here with

1237
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:42,640
us and we played back the recording and

1238
00:53:47,109 --> 00:53:43,200
and

1239
00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:47,119
uh this voice goes yes go on

1240
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:48,480
and all of a sudden we got a response

1241
00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:51,040
and it was having this kindness and my

1242
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:52,640
friend susan i told you about she's

1243
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:53,440
really good she

1244
00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:55,680
she almost talks to ghosts like a puppy

1245
00:54:00,069 --> 00:53:57,359
i joke with her because she's so

1246
00:54:00,549 --> 00:54:00,079
loving and she she works with like a k2

1247
00:54:02,309 --> 00:54:00,559
meter

1248
00:54:04,069 --> 00:54:02,319
and an audio recorder and she loves

1249
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:04,079
watching the lights bounce on the k2

1250
00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:04,640
meter

1251
00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:07,040
as these spirits respond and then kind

1252
00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:08,240
of the recording is

1253
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:10,559
secondary to her and we were at this

1254
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:11,280
mansion in

1255
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:14,720
um in canada that they used for the

1256
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:16,640
x-men's mansion and has been used in

1257
00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:17,760
many movies

1258
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:19,280
and everybody was in all the hot spots

1259
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:20,640
and she was tired of being in the crowd

1260
00:54:23,829 --> 00:54:22,240
so she went into the cafeteria with her

1261
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:23,839
friend and they started doing an evp

1262
00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:24,800
session

1263
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:26,720
and she's like can you light up this

1264
00:54:29,589 --> 00:54:28,480
machine just come a little closer oh

1265
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:29,599
look at that that is

1266
00:54:33,670 --> 00:54:32,800
so great thank you so much and she's so

1267
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:33,680
loving

1268
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:36,240
and and kind and then she goes um you

1269
00:54:38,069 --> 00:54:37,440
know she does her deal and at the end

1270
00:54:40,630 --> 00:54:38,079
she goes

1271
00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:40,640
i know this took so much energy thank

1272
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:41,119
you

1273
00:54:45,270 --> 00:54:42,960
it has been such a pleasure to speak

1274
00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:45,280
with you and she plays back the evp and

1275
00:54:49,829 --> 00:54:46,880
you hear this male's voice go

1276
00:54:52,230 --> 00:54:49,839
the pleasure was all mine are uh you're

1277
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:52,240
referring to the x-men mansion the one

1278
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:53,040
with the uh

1279
00:54:59,190 --> 00:54:56,160
picard and the giant brain computer

1280
00:55:01,190 --> 00:54:59,200
yes oh this place is ginormous man yeah

1281
00:55:02,870 --> 00:55:01,200
the canadian it's a canadian place and

1282
00:55:04,789 --> 00:55:02,880
it's part of i think the school

1283
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:04,799
uh one of the colleges universities owns

1284
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:06,000
it but they would allow

1285
00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:08,960
these ghost hunts and here here she's

1286
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:09,680
talking

1287
00:55:14,309 --> 00:55:12,319
very kindly and politely and she's

1288
00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:14,319
getting direct responses from this man

1289
00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:15,760
and then he tells her no the pleasure

1290
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:16,720
was all mine

1291
00:55:19,990 --> 00:55:18,079
and it was just the two of them in that

1292
00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:20,000
room two women there was no

1293
00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:22,720
male voice to be heard i wasn't there i

1294
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:24,240
just heard the aftermath when she said

1295
00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:25,920
you've got to hear this evp

1296
00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:29,280
right and i would think i'm no expert

1297
00:55:32,789 --> 00:55:31,200
but i would think that that approach is

1298
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:32,799
better than

1299
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:35,920
uh provoking or a negative

1300
00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:39,119
angry approach to trying to make contact

1301
00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:42,160
in an investigation

1302
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:44,319
yeah i mean you know some people you

1303
00:55:47,349 --> 00:55:45,520
know zach baggins

1304
00:55:48,630 --> 00:55:47,359
has taken a lot of heat over the years

1305
00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:48,640
for being a

1306
00:55:52,789 --> 00:55:51,119
being provocative and and kind of

1307
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:52,799
challenging the spirits but people

1308
00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:54,319
forget that a lot of the places they're

1309
00:55:56,950 --> 00:55:55,920
going are places where he's coming into

1310
00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:56,960
contact with

1311
00:56:01,510 --> 00:55:59,920
killers and convicts and he's not

1312
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:01,520
showing them respect

1313
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:03,280
in the normal sense he's trying to act

1314
00:56:06,549 --> 00:56:04,480
as though he's a guard he's trying to

1315
00:56:08,789 --> 00:56:06,559
put himself into that mindset of

1316
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:08,799
you know you want to oh you want to beat

1317
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:10,480
people up you want to push the woman

1318
00:56:14,069 --> 00:56:12,240
down and so once you come push me

1319
00:56:15,750 --> 00:56:14,079
so he's challenging a to see if there's

1320
00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:15,760
really any energy there right

1321
00:56:20,069 --> 00:56:18,640
be to see if they do have this ability

1322
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:20,079
to do anything like these people are

1323
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:20,880
claiming

1324
00:56:25,270 --> 00:56:24,480
and so he's you know i understand both

1325
00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:25,280
sides of this

1326
00:56:29,349 --> 00:56:27,599
and i've challenged spirits to points

1327
00:56:30,309 --> 00:56:29,359
and i've been very kind to spirits and

1328
00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:30,319
and i will be honest

1329
00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:32,400
mostly when i'm kind is when i get the

1330
00:56:36,069 --> 00:56:33,440
best responses

1331
00:56:37,270 --> 00:56:36,079
um although there's an episode coming up

1332
00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:37,280
this season where i

1333
00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:40,319
uh i get one of the weirdest evps

1334
00:56:44,309 --> 00:56:42,559
i was up in the attic of this location

1335
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:44,319
and i start to try to do a clearing

1336
00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:45,280
prayer

1337
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:46,720
and something starts making a lot

1338
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:48,720
erratic

1339
00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:50,400
noise on the other side of the attic and

1340
00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:52,160
i go over there

1341
00:56:56,309 --> 00:56:54,960
and i turn my recorder back on pause and

1342
00:56:57,750 --> 00:56:56,319
then i start to talk and i'm like are

1343
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:57,760
you trying to intimidate me or scare me

1344
00:57:01,670 --> 00:56:59,680
out of here that's not gonna work

1345
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:01,680
and when i play back the recorder before

1346
00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:03,280
i even start asking my next set of

1347
00:57:08,069 --> 00:57:05,280
questions or speaking to the spirit

1348
00:57:09,030 --> 00:57:08,079
this very strong voice comes in and asks

1349
00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:09,040
me to stop

1350
00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:12,319
what i'm trying to do did you see

1351
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:14,079
it was posted up on twitter i think

1352
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:15,359
yesterday

1353
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:18,559
football

1354
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:22,240
it was a live feed uh from

1355
00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:24,160
uh these three guys watching a football

1356
00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:25,680
game it's their network

1357
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:27,200
right and that's what they do i think

1358
00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:29,280
it's a betting site or something i could

1359
00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:30,160
be wrong

1360
00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:33,200
but it's just their live feed um

1361
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:35,200
one guy's lying on the ground two guys

1362
00:57:37,430 --> 00:57:36,240
are uh

1363
00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:37,440
sitting on the couch watching the

1364
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:38,880
football game you can hear the football

1365
00:57:41,109 --> 00:57:40,400
game they're talking about the football

1366
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:41,119
game

1367
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:42,720
and then like six feet in front of them

1368
00:57:46,390 --> 00:57:45,119
they have this giant coffee table with

1369
00:57:50,549 --> 00:57:46,400
pizzas on it and

1370
00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:50,559
chips and and things and this fork

1371
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:53,920
flips on the plate did you see that

1372
00:57:56,630 --> 00:57:54,400
video

1373
00:57:57,910 --> 00:57:56,640
it was yesterday i haven't seen it no

1374
00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:57,920
it's crazy

1375
00:58:01,589 --> 00:58:00,319
and this is the thing i guess the minute

1376
00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:01,599
it's a live feed right

1377
00:58:05,109 --> 00:58:04,079
and you hear and see this fork do this

1378
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:05,119
flip

1379
00:58:09,829 --> 00:58:07,680
um feet away from them and it's in the

1380
00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:09,839
middle of the table all by itself

1381
00:58:16,549 --> 00:58:13,440
and one of them is like man uh uh

1382
00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:16,559
did did you see that right

1383
00:58:19,990 --> 00:58:18,480
and that guy and the other the fork

1384
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:20,000
flipped and

1385
00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:21,760
i think the fir the the guy on the

1386
00:58:24,789 --> 00:58:23,359
ground didn't even react he's still

1387
00:58:25,910 --> 00:58:24,799
watching the football game i don't even

1388
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:25,920
think he heard it

1389
00:58:29,270 --> 00:58:27,680
but the other guy goes man it's like

1390
00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:29,280
ghost hunters

1391
00:58:32,470 --> 00:58:30,640
all right makes this comment but you

1392
00:58:34,150 --> 00:58:32,480
didn't see the video it's it's

1393
00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:34,160
i'll have to check it out dude it's

1394
00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:36,000
classic class

1395
00:58:41,349 --> 00:58:39,040
a whoever posted that video in twitter

1396
00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:41,359
if you're listening right now repost it

1397
00:58:45,430 --> 00:58:42,400
and uh

1398
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:45,440
and hit dave what do you hit uh what do

1399
00:58:48,829 --> 00:58:46,240
you uh pop

1400
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up first in twitter darkness darkness

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radio yeah i'm at darkness radio

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okay uh and some somebody post that link

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up

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and uh and and get dave in on that

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let's uh take our break right here and

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uh what a great show i'm really looking

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forward

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uh to our conversation tonight we're

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gonna specifically

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when we come back from the break talk

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about um an

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episode that's gonna air this thursday

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what time and where

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dave travel channel this thursday it is

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10 p.m

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eastern and pacific 9 p.m central you

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can check local listings and times in

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your area

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but this episode i promise is going to

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blow people's minds

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and you got a chance to watch it i

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certainly did

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that right after the break tonight dave

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schrader

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is here we're talking about season three

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of the holzer files and again when we

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come back we're going to talk about this

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very special episode that is going to

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air no spoilers

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you're not going to get that from us but

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i have seen it we'll be right back after

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this short break follow me on twitter

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at jchurchradio and you can follow dave

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at darkness darkness radio dave

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yes just at darkness radio at darkness

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radio i've got it up right here on

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twitter i'll be right back stay with us

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host jimmy church tonight dave schrader

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that's right talking about the holzer

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files

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season three everybody and uh

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i enjoy uh this this show so much

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01:05:34,549 --> 01:05:31,920
and it's it's dave and it's crew

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but there's something else going on here

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um

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and i and and it's this

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the show is based on i should let dave

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tell the story actually

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no problem but it's but it's based on

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it's called holzer files for a reason

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isn't it yes uh hans holzer one of the

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01:05:55,670 --> 01:05:54,079
uh preeminent paranormal investigators

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um in america

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01:06:00,309 --> 01:05:58,000
uh actually he's an austrian who lived

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in america and and he was

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01:06:04,309 --> 01:06:02,240
uh deeply entrenched in the paranormal

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01:06:04,870 --> 01:06:04,319
field he began his career as a matter of

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fact

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later on this season we go to rockland

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county the site of his first

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01:06:12,150 --> 01:06:09,760
investigation

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as a follow-up to uh to that in one of

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the files but

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he investigated thousands of cases wrote

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over 145 books

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01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:21,200
on all aspects of ghosts aliens psychic

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phenomena witches you name it this guy

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was into it and he really took it to a

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different level

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we get a chance on on the holzer files

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because of his daughter alexandra and

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with her help and blessing on every

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episode

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we get to reopen a case and we have the

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original video footage

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the original 16 millimeter footage or

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eight millimeter footage that he shot

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we have original audio recordings his

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handwritten notes

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so we really get to look at these cases

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01:06:53,190 --> 01:06:51,440
and he was

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he took copious amounts of notes and we

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get to go back in and re-examine these

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01:06:57,589 --> 01:06:55,440
cases

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01:06:59,510 --> 01:06:57,599
from a 21st century perspective with

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01:07:01,670 --> 01:06:59,520
equipment that wasn't around

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60 50 40 years ago when he was doing

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01:07:05,510 --> 01:07:02,880
this and

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continue this legacy uh the the true

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star of this show

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01:07:11,910 --> 01:07:09,920
is the files and the the history the

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haunted history and getting it right

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01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:14,480
which is so important for dr holzer his

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family and for the team

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now so i'm really pleased to be a part

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of it and that would say to me you've

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got

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a potential uh 10 season run then

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20 probably 25 seasons

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01:07:30,870 --> 01:07:29,359
and here's why because there are cases

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like we examine one

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uh later on this season that dr holzer

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heard about these ghost stories went to

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the house

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the homeowner was reticent at that time

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to let him in

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01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:41,680
um the family actually saw our season

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01:07:44,630 --> 01:07:42,400
one

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01:07:46,549 --> 01:07:44,640
and they decided to open their doors and

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01:07:49,990 --> 01:07:46,559
allow us to come back and do the

1633
01:07:50,870 --> 01:07:50,000
examination dr holzer was denied 40 50

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01:07:53,349 --> 01:07:50,880
years ago

1635
01:07:54,950 --> 01:07:53,359
so there are cases that he investigated

1636
01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:54,960
himself there are some that he reported

1637
01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:55,280
on

1638
01:07:59,430 --> 01:07:57,200
there are some he tried to get into and

1639
01:08:00,470 --> 01:07:59,440
could not and there are cases in his

1640
01:08:02,470 --> 01:08:00,480
waning years

1641
01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:02,480
that people were still sending him that

1642
01:08:05,670 --> 01:08:04,160
you know when he was 80 85 they're

1643
01:08:07,430 --> 01:08:05,680
begging him to come out and he couldn't

1644
01:08:09,910 --> 01:08:07,440
get to so we're going to be examining

1645
01:08:11,990 --> 01:08:09,920
all those types of cases so there's

1646
01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:12,000
literally we could go probably 20 to 25

1647
01:08:15,510 --> 01:08:12,880
seasons

1648
01:08:15,910 --> 01:08:15,520
and still have things to uh to look at

1649
01:08:19,910 --> 01:08:15,920
now

1650
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:19,920
meters we've got

1651
01:08:26,709 --> 01:08:23,520
flir night vision radar lidar

1652
01:08:30,149 --> 01:08:26,719
night vision right digital recorders uh

1653
01:08:31,990 --> 01:08:30,159
lasers laser grids and anything else

1654
01:08:34,550 --> 01:08:32,000
photon cameras right and

1655
01:08:35,990 --> 01:08:34,560
we've got all of this technology today

1656
01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:36,000
um what did he

1657
01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:38,400
use what was in his arsenal that long

1658
01:08:41,669 --> 01:08:39,520
ago

1659
01:08:43,749 --> 01:08:41,679
well he developed the holzer method he

1660
01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:43,759
really brought in a camera

1661
01:08:46,870 --> 01:08:46,080
an audio recorder a pen and paper and

1662
01:08:50,149 --> 01:08:46,880
then his

1663
01:08:50,709 --> 01:08:50,159
tool of choice was a trans medium and he

1664
01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:50,719
worked with

1665
01:08:56,309 --> 01:08:53,839
uh you know ethel myers who was a legend

1666
01:08:57,510 --> 01:08:56,319
dame sybil leak he worked with some of

1667
01:09:00,550 --> 01:08:57,520
these major

1668
01:09:01,829 --> 01:09:00,560
um trans mediums and what a trans medium

1669
01:09:05,030 --> 01:09:01,839
is jimmy is they go

1670
01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:05,040
deep they allow the spirits into them to

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01:09:07,829 --> 01:09:05,520
speak

1672
01:09:10,070 --> 01:09:07,839
through the medium and he would record

1673
01:09:10,550 --> 01:09:10,080
these and you hear these genteel voices

1674
01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:10,560
and

1675
01:09:14,070 --> 01:09:12,880
dame sybil she's very elegant in the way

1676
01:09:16,550 --> 01:09:14,080
she speaks and then

1677
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:16,560
she'll go into this trance and let you

1678
01:09:20,709 --> 01:09:18,480
hear these voices coming out of her

1679
01:09:22,229 --> 01:09:20,719
and and hans holzer is always very stoic

1680
01:09:23,430 --> 01:09:22,239
and walking you know the spirit through

1681
01:09:26,229 --> 01:09:23,440
what's going on to them

1682
01:09:28,870 --> 01:09:26,239
and why they need to move on and it's

1683
01:09:31,510 --> 01:09:28,880
really amazing to hear these

1684
01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:31,520
these accounts from their mouths get to

1685
01:09:36,229 --> 01:09:33,920
hear the original recordings and we've

1686
01:09:36,950 --> 01:09:36,239
saved them from disintegrating or being

1687
01:09:39,430 --> 01:09:36,960
lost

1688
01:09:41,349 --> 01:09:39,440
and that's been a big um important

1689
01:09:42,870 --> 01:09:41,359
aspect to the holzer family and to us so

1690
01:09:44,309 --> 01:09:42,880
that this man's work doesn't go

1691
01:09:45,829 --> 01:09:44,319
forgotten and unnoticed

1692
01:09:48,070 --> 01:09:45,839
hopefully he'll get the accolades he

1693
01:09:49,669 --> 01:09:48,080
deserves because he was truly a pioneer

1694
01:09:52,070 --> 01:09:49,679
in this field in the united states

1695
01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:52,080
how many how many investigations did he

1696
01:09:58,470 --> 01:09:55,040
get a chance to record

1697
01:10:01,030 --> 01:09:58,480
i think we've got uh footage

1698
01:10:02,229 --> 01:10:01,040
and recordings from well over five or

1699
01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:02,239
six hundred cases

1700
01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:04,960
oh holy crap oh that's what i'm saying

1701
01:10:09,590 --> 01:10:06,480
oh yeah he was on the go

1702
01:10:11,110 --> 01:10:09,600
constantly and and we've got so many

1703
01:10:12,630 --> 01:10:11,120
things in some of the cases he would go

1704
01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:12,640
back to two or three times

1705
01:10:16,709 --> 01:10:14,800
like the case that we cover this week at

1706
01:10:18,790 --> 01:10:16,719
franklin castle which brings me

1707
01:10:20,310 --> 01:10:18,800
that's a nice segue well done you're a

1708
01:10:23,430 --> 01:10:20,320
professional

1709
01:10:26,790 --> 01:10:23,440
well played dave um because the

1710
01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:26,800
recordings of this investigation uh

1711
01:10:30,470 --> 01:10:29,679
uh are the center of the show this week

1712
01:10:32,790 --> 01:10:30,480
um

1713
01:10:34,630 --> 01:10:32,800
uh take us through that where did you

1714
01:10:39,030 --> 01:10:34,640
guys go

1715
01:10:41,750 --> 01:10:39,040
well we went to franklin castle in um

1716
01:10:43,110 --> 01:10:41,760
in cleveland ohio and for people that

1717
01:10:43,990 --> 01:10:43,120
aren't familiar with this hans holzer

1718
01:10:46,790 --> 01:10:44,000
visited

1719
01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:46,800
the franklin castle uh many times and

1720
01:10:49,189 --> 01:10:48,640
each time he experienced these really

1721
01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:49,199
horrible

1722
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:51,360
technical difficulties now mind you he'd

1723
01:10:54,470 --> 01:10:53,040
gone on hundreds of investigations but

1724
01:10:57,669 --> 01:10:54,480
he used to go in with this reel to reel

1725
01:10:59,350 --> 01:10:57,679
tape recorder and you'll get to hear

1726
01:11:00,950 --> 01:10:59,360
some of these actual recordings on the

1727
01:11:02,470 --> 01:11:00,960
upcoming episode and you can hear how

1728
01:11:02,950 --> 01:11:02,480
badly they're distorting there's

1729
01:11:05,590 --> 01:11:02,960
something

1730
01:11:06,950 --> 01:11:05,600
interfering with it it gets choppy and

1731
01:11:08,709 --> 01:11:06,960
it frustrated the hell out of him so he

1732
01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:08,719
kept going back with the invitation of

1733
01:11:12,790 --> 01:11:09,840
the family

1734
01:11:13,910 --> 01:11:12,800
and the third time something very

1735
01:11:16,550 --> 01:11:13,920
unusual happens

1736
01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:16,560
the woman who had invited them in

1737
01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:17,760
suddenly has this

1738
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:19,760
change of heart and becomes very

1739
01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:21,120
aggressive towards

1740
01:11:24,149 --> 01:11:22,960
dr holzer and on the third time he had

1741
01:11:27,590 --> 01:11:24,159
brought a medium

1742
01:11:29,669 --> 01:11:27,600
to try to do this transmedium ship and

1743
01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:29,679
he ends up being kind of thrown out of

1744
01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:30,640
the house

1745
01:11:35,030 --> 01:11:33,120
uh and we wanted to understand why so we

1746
01:11:37,030 --> 01:11:35,040
talked to dee romano one of the family

1747
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:37,040
members and we actually

1748
01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:39,520
um you know talked to her and came to

1749
01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:41,040
some really interesting conclusions some

1750
01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:41,840
things that

1751
01:11:45,270 --> 01:11:43,760
won't appear on the episode because

1752
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:45,280
although it's fascinating

1753
01:11:48,550 --> 01:11:47,280
it deters from the actual story we were

1754
01:11:49,510 --> 01:11:48,560
there to investigate which was the

1755
01:11:52,790 --> 01:11:49,520
haunting

1756
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:52,800
and um you know it's it's really

1757
01:11:56,709 --> 01:11:55,920
it's just a bizarre case but um hannes

1758
01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:56,719
tiedemann

1759
01:12:01,110 --> 01:11:58,560
had had helped to build this place for

1760
01:12:03,270 --> 01:12:01,120
his family and

1761
01:12:04,870 --> 01:12:03,280
it changed hands many times there was

1762
01:12:07,669 --> 01:12:04,880
tragedy in his family

1763
01:12:09,430 --> 01:12:07,679
uh over and over and it was really kind

1764
01:12:09,910 --> 01:12:09,440
of heartbreaking and we believe that

1765
01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:09,920
there are

1766
01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:12,880
uh spirits that coexist but can't

1767
01:12:16,070 --> 01:12:14,480
communicate with one another

1768
01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:16,080
it's like they're time locked in their

1769
01:12:21,189 --> 01:12:18,000
own era and

1770
01:12:22,550 --> 01:12:21,199
and are are lost and this i keep telling

1771
01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:22,560
people this is one of the most powerful

1772
01:12:26,550 --> 01:12:24,560
episodes i've been a part of and

1773
01:12:27,910 --> 01:12:26,560
and you saw that in the episode i get

1774
01:12:30,630 --> 01:12:27,920
very emotional

1775
01:12:32,470 --> 01:12:30,640
um this was sprung on me when i was

1776
01:12:33,030 --> 01:12:32,480
sitting talking to the historian about

1777
01:12:34,709 --> 01:12:33,040
this

1778
01:12:36,310 --> 01:12:34,719
i knew the case i knew there was a young

1779
01:12:38,229 --> 01:12:36,320
girl who died i didn't know why

1780
01:12:39,590 --> 01:12:38,239
and she springs on me the fact that this

1781
01:12:42,310 --> 01:12:39,600
young girl had passed away from

1782
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:42,320
complications due to diabetes

1783
01:12:45,669 --> 01:12:44,640
and she's telling me this on the second

1784
01:12:48,149 --> 01:12:45,679
anniversary

1785
01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:48,159
of the date i almost lost my daughter to

1786
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:50,320
complications of diabetes i had to rush

1787
01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:51,520
her into the hospital and

1788
01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:54,640
spend one of the most agonizing 24 hours

1789
01:12:57,910 --> 01:12:55,760
of my life

1790
01:12:59,189 --> 01:12:57,920
as the doctor said we don't know if

1791
01:13:01,350 --> 01:12:59,199
she's gonna come back

1792
01:13:02,870 --> 01:13:01,360
um and it's it was just a waiting game

1793
01:13:04,630 --> 01:13:02,880
and thankfully

1794
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:04,640
uh with all the prayers of our darkness

1795
01:13:07,510 --> 01:13:06,800
radio audience and and fans around the

1796
01:13:08,790 --> 01:13:07,520
world they

1797
01:13:10,550 --> 01:13:08,800
pulled together i really do give a lot

1798
01:13:12,070 --> 01:13:10,560
of credit to prayer and intention

1799
01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:12,080
because my daughter came out of it

1800
01:13:15,910 --> 01:13:14,320
unscathed um you know we're a lot more

1801
01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:15,920
diligent on all of her

1802
01:13:19,030 --> 01:13:17,280
work but all of a sudden i'm just kind

1803
01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:19,040
of hit with this wall of emotion i had

1804
01:13:22,070 --> 01:13:20,400
to leave

1805
01:13:23,669 --> 01:13:22,080
uh production a few times during the

1806
01:13:24,790 --> 01:13:23,679
filming of the episodes because i would

1807
01:13:26,790 --> 01:13:24,800
just start bawling

1808
01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:26,800
um it was just you know especially when

1809
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:29,440
i'd hear something or or encounter

1810
01:13:32,790 --> 01:13:30,880
something

1811
01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:32,800
it was just it was so real to me and i

1812
01:13:36,390 --> 01:13:34,400
couldn't you know this little girl's

1813
01:13:38,470 --> 01:13:36,400
looking for her mommy and daddy

1814
01:13:41,750 --> 01:13:38,480
and her mommy and daddy are looking for

1815
01:13:44,310 --> 01:13:41,760
her and they're there but they're not

1816
01:13:45,510 --> 01:13:44,320
they're not together and it was just

1817
01:13:48,630 --> 01:13:45,520
heart-wrenching to me

1818
01:13:50,470 --> 01:13:48,640
and you know we we try a couple of

1819
01:13:52,630 --> 01:13:50,480
interesting experiments

1820
01:13:54,709 --> 01:13:52,640
uh cindy breaks out a new skill on this

1821
01:13:57,750 --> 01:13:54,719
episode that you haven't seen her you

1822
01:13:58,630 --> 01:13:57,760
utilize before and we just had uh it was

1823
01:14:00,149 --> 01:13:58,640
such a

1824
01:14:01,669 --> 01:14:00,159
an interesting history and story and

1825
01:14:04,310 --> 01:14:01,679
this honest teeterman

1826
01:14:06,390 --> 01:14:04,320
had many stories told about him and many

1827
01:14:09,030 --> 01:14:06,400
legends that grew in the local

1828
01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:09,040
history and we dig deep through the

1829
01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:10,960
history books to try to uncover what's

1830
01:14:14,470 --> 01:14:11,600
fact

1831
01:14:16,790 --> 01:14:14,480
and what's fiction and i think that uh

1832
01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:16,800
you know it's going to upset some people

1833
01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:18,560
and it's others it's going to be no

1834
01:14:23,430 --> 01:14:20,719
surprise what we're able to uncover

1835
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:23,440
and i i will see this now you you got to

1836
01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:24,480
watch the episode jim

1837
01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:27,280
i did i did and um i i don't know if

1838
01:14:30,310 --> 01:14:28,400
there's a zone

1839
01:14:31,990 --> 01:14:30,320
i can't go into i'm not talking about

1840
01:14:33,189 --> 01:14:32,000
spoilers of course i'm talking about

1841
01:14:35,510 --> 01:14:33,199
your daughter

1842
01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:35,520
um uh can we talk about that just to

1843
01:14:38,550 --> 01:14:37,280
just touch upon it okay what's your

1844
01:14:42,470 --> 01:14:38,560
daughter's name

1845
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:42,480
wanted you to say it i didn't want to

1846
01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:43,280
say it

1847
01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:46,400
sure i appreciate it and and uh

1848
01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:47,760
get ahead of my skis here when i

1849
01:14:52,550 --> 01:14:49,920
shouldn't have okay so ripley

1850
01:14:53,750 --> 01:14:52,560
is uh ripley if you're listening or if

1851
01:14:55,750 --> 01:14:53,760
you're gonna listen later let me tell

1852
01:14:58,149 --> 01:14:55,760
you something you're you're very cool

1853
01:14:59,590 --> 01:14:58,159
very courageous and and your feet are on

1854
01:15:01,750 --> 01:14:59,600
the ground don't change

1855
01:15:04,550 --> 01:15:01,760
all right i'm just gonna say that

1856
01:15:08,149 --> 01:15:04,560
because her participation in this

1857
01:15:11,590 --> 01:15:08,159
i mean dude right and i was

1858
01:15:13,990 --> 01:15:11,600
uh i i was i'm a dad

1859
01:15:15,750 --> 01:15:14,000
i'm a dad of two daughters by the way

1860
01:15:20,070 --> 01:15:15,760
you know and you go through that

1861
01:15:22,310 --> 01:15:20,080
and how you uh presented it

1862
01:15:24,149 --> 01:15:22,320
uh was it was it easy for you to make

1863
01:15:26,790 --> 01:15:24,159
the decision i guess that's

1864
01:15:28,310 --> 01:15:26,800
that's the honest question because have

1865
01:15:30,149 --> 01:15:28,320
you pulled your family in like this

1866
01:15:33,590 --> 01:15:30,159
before and in this case

1867
01:15:34,310 --> 01:15:33,600
we're talking about um uh another little

1868
01:15:37,430 --> 01:15:34,320
girl that

1869
01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:37,440
is in play here well my you know i've

1870
01:15:40,310 --> 01:15:38,000
never really

1871
01:15:42,149 --> 01:15:40,320
incorporated my family into my work my

1872
01:15:44,229 --> 01:15:42,159
girls have gone on a few investigations

1873
01:15:46,070 --> 01:15:44,239
with me at places i feel safe

1874
01:15:47,750 --> 01:15:46,080
with them and we're very cautious how we

1875
01:15:50,790 --> 01:15:47,760
proceed um

1876
01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:50,800
but the my two girls are probably you

1877
01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:51,280
know i have

1878
01:15:55,750 --> 01:15:54,560
uh four daughters um two of them are

1879
01:15:57,189 --> 01:15:55,760
active with me and like to do these

1880
01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:57,199
things my other adult daughter

1881
01:16:00,229 --> 01:15:59,040
loves the paranormal loves our show and

1882
01:16:02,310 --> 01:16:00,239
darkness radio but she

1883
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:02,320
she's not a ghost hunter she doesn't go

1884
01:16:05,669 --> 01:16:04,239
out and you know i'm sure she'd love to

1885
01:16:07,990 --> 01:16:05,679
she's just tied to

1886
01:16:09,430 --> 01:16:08,000
being a mom and and family person and

1887
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:09,440
trying to work her own life so

1888
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:10,960
we haven't had a chance to investigate

1889
01:16:14,790 --> 01:16:13,360
together but i i thought this through

1890
01:16:17,189 --> 01:16:14,800
and i'm like you know

1891
01:16:19,750 --> 01:16:17,199
this little girl's spirit only made

1892
01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:19,760
herself known

1893
01:16:23,270 --> 01:16:22,480
to the children of this house and here

1894
01:16:26,630 --> 01:16:23,280
you've got this

1895
01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:26,640
52 year old man and

1896
01:16:31,669 --> 01:16:29,120
you know is she going to communicate

1897
01:16:33,510 --> 01:16:31,679
with me and i thought well

1898
01:16:35,110 --> 01:16:33,520
if there is a familiarity if there is a

1899
01:16:36,950 --> 01:16:35,120
resonance

1900
01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:36,960
it would probably be with my daughter

1901
01:16:41,990 --> 01:16:39,760
and i i asked her i told her the story

1902
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:42,000
and i said what would you think about

1903
01:16:45,350 --> 01:16:43,120
participating

1904
01:16:47,830 --> 01:16:45,360
long distance and be a part of this

1905
01:16:49,270 --> 01:16:47,840
investigation in a very brief way for me

1906
01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:49,280
and she

1907
01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:51,120
uh she said can i think about it dad and

1908
01:16:54,390 --> 01:16:52,640
i said yeah and she called me back a

1909
01:16:56,390 --> 01:16:54,400
little bit later and she said okay i

1910
01:16:58,310 --> 01:16:56,400
i made something for you and she sent it

1911
01:16:58,709 --> 01:16:58,320
over for me to examine and i liked it

1912
01:17:04,790 --> 01:16:58,719
and

1913
01:17:07,990 --> 01:17:04,800
it was something i believe is what made

1914
01:17:10,630 --> 01:17:08,000
the communication so successful

1915
01:17:12,310 --> 01:17:10,640
for us on this episode uh and you know

1916
01:17:13,270 --> 01:17:12,320
not giving spoilers away but i'm going

1917
01:17:15,110 --> 01:17:13,280
to be honest

1918
01:17:17,830 --> 01:17:15,120
i get i think we get one of the best

1919
01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:17,840
pieces of video evidence

1920
01:17:21,510 --> 01:17:19,600
anybody's ever seen yeah it's pretty

1921
01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:21,520
incredible pretty incredible

1922
01:17:24,630 --> 01:17:23,120
um yeah and everybody will just have to

1923
01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:24,640
wait for thursday to see that

1924
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:27,040
now let's back up let's back up and

1925
01:17:31,270 --> 01:17:28,320
again ripley

1926
01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:31,280
uh two thumbs up that was just that was

1927
01:17:33,910 --> 01:17:33,040
that was just awesome man i was on the

1928
01:17:37,910 --> 01:17:33,920
edge of my seat

1929
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:37,920
okay um there is a scene again

1930
01:17:45,590 --> 01:17:42,480
everybody uh there are no spoilers here

1931
01:17:49,030 --> 01:17:45,600
but i can ask this strategic question

1932
01:17:50,149 --> 01:17:49,040
which is this there is a scene first off

1933
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:50,159
this house is big

1934
01:17:53,910 --> 01:17:52,960
it's called castle for a reason yeah um

1935
01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:53,920
how many stories

1936
01:17:57,990 --> 01:17:57,040
three stories three and a half uh you

1937
01:17:59,590 --> 01:17:58,000
know i can't remember

1938
01:18:01,750 --> 01:17:59,600
it might even be four stories might be

1939
01:18:03,910 --> 01:18:01,760
four yeah yeah with with the basement

1940
01:18:06,870 --> 01:18:03,920
level and then three going up i believe

1941
01:18:08,149 --> 01:18:06,880
right right so it's it's a big place and

1942
01:18:12,470 --> 01:18:08,159
it's very casual

1943
01:18:14,550 --> 01:18:12,480
castle-ish um but there is a scene

1944
01:18:16,550 --> 01:18:14,560
uh where cindy's sitting there with her

1945
01:18:18,870 --> 01:18:16,560
sharpie she's going to town

1946
01:18:20,229 --> 01:18:18,880
and and she's doing her thing and and

1947
01:18:21,030 --> 01:18:20,239
shane is sitting there you're sitting

1948
01:18:24,870 --> 01:18:21,040
there

1949
01:18:28,470 --> 01:18:24,880
and friggin footsteps man

1950
01:18:31,510 --> 01:18:28,480
right from yeah from upstairs now

1951
01:18:32,470 --> 01:18:31,520
um uh i i want to talk about this for a

1952
01:18:34,470 --> 01:18:32,480
second

1953
01:18:35,669 --> 01:18:34,480
um because it didn't happen once it

1954
01:18:39,590 --> 01:18:35,679
didn't happen twice

1955
01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:39,600
and it wasn't like a knock its

1956
01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:42,640
footsteps in this giant house and you

1957
01:18:45,830 --> 01:18:44,080
guys are in there alone and there's

1958
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:45,840
nobody above you

1959
01:18:49,510 --> 01:18:48,560
and and that is like the most audible

1960
01:18:51,110 --> 01:18:49,520
thing

1961
01:18:53,430 --> 01:18:51,120
where there's no question about what is

1962
01:18:54,390 --> 01:18:53,440
going on right uh did your heart leap

1963
01:18:56,790 --> 01:18:54,400
out of your chest

1964
01:18:57,990 --> 01:18:56,800
i'm watching the three of you react but

1965
01:19:00,790 --> 01:18:58,000
then it happened again

1966
01:19:02,709 --> 01:19:00,800
right yeah and then you start to wonder

1967
01:19:04,390 --> 01:19:02,719
am i hallucinating this did we really

1968
01:19:06,310 --> 01:19:04,400
hear that maybe it's the board settling

1969
01:19:09,189 --> 01:19:06,320
and then you hear walking again so

1970
01:19:09,830 --> 01:19:09,199
yeah there's always that kind of holy

1971
01:19:11,750 --> 01:19:09,840
minute

1972
01:19:13,350 --> 01:19:11,760
right when you first are like wait

1973
01:19:15,510 --> 01:19:13,360
what's going on here

1974
01:19:16,790 --> 01:19:15,520
but you know you've got to you've got to

1975
01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:16,800
follow it through see what

1976
01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:20,560
is to be seen you know now okay

1977
01:19:24,550 --> 01:19:23,280
again i'm gonna be repeating myself no

1978
01:19:26,709 --> 01:19:24,560
spoilers here

1979
01:19:28,709 --> 01:19:26,719
but of course you guys do what you got

1980
01:19:32,630 --> 01:19:28,719
to do which is

1981
01:19:35,830 --> 01:19:32,640
freaking hightail it up the stairs right

1982
01:19:36,630 --> 01:19:35,840
what and and you and and the camera

1983
01:19:39,110 --> 01:19:36,640
people are there

1984
01:19:40,229 --> 01:19:39,120
and following and and i'm on the edge of

1985
01:19:41,750 --> 01:19:40,239
my seat but

1986
01:19:43,669 --> 01:19:41,760
as you're going up the stairs what are

1987
01:19:45,669 --> 01:19:43,679
you expecting to see

1988
01:19:47,270 --> 01:19:45,679
are you i mean are you expecting are you

1989
01:19:50,070 --> 01:19:47,280
hoping for

1990
01:19:50,870 --> 01:19:50,080
uh the sound guy up there uh having a

1991
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:50,880
smoke break

1992
01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:53,600
is that what you're hoping for or you

1993
01:19:55,830 --> 01:19:54,000
know

1994
01:19:57,110 --> 01:19:55,840
it's a mixed bag because part of it is

1995
01:20:00,550 --> 01:19:57,120
you want to have this

1996
01:20:02,310 --> 01:20:00,560
uh holy grail moment right um

1997
01:20:03,750 --> 01:20:02,320
but on the other hand you're like i'm

1998
01:20:03,990 --> 01:20:03,760
about to round the corner and i don't

1999
01:20:07,110 --> 01:20:04,000
know

2000
01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:07,120
what i'm about to see exactly uh

2001
01:20:11,189 --> 01:20:09,040
i you know i will say honestly this

2002
01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:11,199
season there are two episodes

2003
01:20:16,470 --> 01:20:14,880
where i literally get scared

2004
01:20:18,470 --> 01:20:16,480
backwards i i don't even always to

2005
01:20:21,270 --> 01:20:18,480
explain it you know it it

2006
01:20:22,550 --> 01:20:21,280
totally took me off guard and that's you

2007
01:20:24,870 --> 01:20:22,560
know rare because in a lot of these

2008
01:20:26,950 --> 01:20:24,880
instances i'm there because it's haunted

2009
01:20:28,950 --> 01:20:26,960
but you kind of like it you know your

2010
01:20:30,709 --> 01:20:28,960
mind tries to process things and you try

2011
01:20:33,669 --> 01:20:30,719
to understand things

2012
01:20:34,629 --> 01:20:33,679
and then when you see something

2013
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:34,639
sometimes it's so

2014
01:20:38,550 --> 01:20:37,120
startling so all of these armchair

2015
01:20:39,750 --> 01:20:38,560
quarterbacks on on

2016
01:20:41,110 --> 01:20:39,760
friday morning that watch the show

2017
01:20:41,830 --> 01:20:41,120
they're like oh i can't believe they

2018
01:20:43,189 --> 01:20:41,840
were scared

2019
01:20:45,270 --> 01:20:43,199
what about you they shouldn't even do

2020
01:20:46,709 --> 01:20:45,280
this i would never you're so full of

2021
01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:46,719
crap it's unbelievable

2022
01:20:49,910 --> 01:20:48,000
when you're in a dark place and

2023
01:20:51,110 --> 01:20:49,920
something bum rushes you or you feel

2024
01:20:53,590 --> 01:20:51,120
something touch you

2025
01:20:54,870 --> 01:20:53,600
and you don't react then you're probably

2026
01:20:57,990 --> 01:20:54,880
already dead yourself

2027
01:21:00,709 --> 01:20:58,000
so you know we're human and you know i

2028
01:21:01,350 --> 01:21:00,719
try to emulate dr holzer i try to remain

2029
01:21:03,590 --> 01:21:01,360
calm

2030
01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:03,600
put his back into play but you get

2031
01:21:07,430 --> 01:21:05,600
unnerved you're in a scary place hearing

2032
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:07,440
horror stories about these ghosts and

2033
01:21:10,070 --> 01:21:08,880
what they went through and

2034
01:21:11,830 --> 01:21:10,080
and you don't know what you're up

2035
01:21:13,750 --> 01:21:11,840
against and you can't see it and is it

2036
01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:13,760
really the ghost of a child or is it a

2037
01:21:17,189 --> 01:21:14,560
demon

2038
01:21:18,470 --> 01:21:17,199
licking its lips taunting you in i we

2039
01:21:21,830 --> 01:21:18,480
don't know

2040
01:21:24,709 --> 01:21:21,840
one of when uh this show's not about me

2041
01:21:26,870 --> 01:21:24,719
but but let me say this everybody when

2042
01:21:30,310 --> 01:21:26,880
when i heard that door slam

2043
01:21:32,709 --> 01:21:30,320
on the queen mary and i get up

2044
01:21:35,110 --> 01:21:32,719
and and have a cameraman follow me back

2045
01:21:38,390 --> 01:21:35,120
there and i'm doing the doofus move

2046
01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:38,400
opening up doors and taking a peek in

2047
01:21:42,070 --> 01:21:41,040
you know honestly i i don't know if i

2048
01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:42,080
would do it that way

2049
01:21:45,510 --> 01:21:43,920
again and you know in the back of your

2050
01:21:47,830 --> 01:21:45,520
head you're hearing

2051
01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:47,840
i know i know i know i know i know do i

2052
01:21:51,669 --> 01:21:49,679
really i'm opening up the door

2053
01:21:53,510 --> 01:21:51,679
and peeking in with the camera guy do i

2054
01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:53,520
really want

2055
01:21:57,750 --> 01:21:56,320
to see what is possible you know what

2056
01:22:00,629 --> 01:21:57,760
what am i setting myself

2057
01:22:01,669 --> 01:22:00,639
up for but i guess adrenaline was like

2058
01:22:03,430 --> 01:22:01,679
i've got to go

2059
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:03,440
uh figure that out but that's a pretty

2060
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:05,040
crazy move to just go and

2061
01:22:09,189 --> 01:22:07,840
and do that like you guys did just

2062
01:22:10,950 --> 01:22:09,199
running up the stairs

2063
01:22:12,550 --> 01:22:10,960
not knowing dude it could have been

2064
01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:12,560
jason friday the 13th

2065
01:22:16,229 --> 01:22:15,360
you don't know right yeah yeah crazy

2066
01:22:19,270 --> 01:22:16,239
crazy okay

2067
01:22:22,149 --> 01:22:19,280
now uh i'll tell you what jimmy

2068
01:22:24,070 --> 01:22:22,159
i'm going to tell you this too when this

2069
01:22:26,709 --> 01:22:24,080
nasty virus lifts and we can

2070
01:22:28,149 --> 01:22:26,719
travel safely around i'm gonna come out

2071
01:22:30,550 --> 01:22:28,159
to california

2072
01:22:31,510 --> 01:22:30,560
i know two locations that are willing to

2073
01:22:33,110 --> 01:22:31,520
let me in

2074
01:22:34,550 --> 01:22:33,120
i'm gonna you and i are gonna go in and

2075
01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:34,560
investigate the two of us

2076
01:22:38,149 --> 01:22:36,480
let's go let's go and then we'll jump

2077
01:22:40,870 --> 01:22:38,159
back out and do your show

2078
01:22:42,790 --> 01:22:40,880
live in california and and do it right

2079
01:22:44,629 --> 01:22:42,800
after we investigate so we can

2080
01:22:46,470 --> 01:22:44,639
tell people the next day exactly what

2081
01:22:48,550 --> 01:22:46,480
happened and still be high on the

2082
01:22:50,550 --> 01:22:48,560
adrenaline or disappointed that nothing

2083
01:22:52,070 --> 01:22:50,560
actually occurred i'm so down for it and

2084
01:22:54,070 --> 01:22:52,080
you're only making the offer because you

2085
01:22:56,470 --> 01:22:54,080
know i'm a professional now

2086
01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:56,480
so you know i'm in the club you've got

2087
01:23:00,470 --> 01:22:57,920
your feet wet you gotta

2088
01:23:02,709 --> 01:23:00,480
you gotta come back it's a drug it's

2089
01:23:03,350 --> 01:23:02,719
crazy man i had such a good time doing

2090
01:23:05,910 --> 01:23:03,360
it

2091
01:23:07,830 --> 01:23:05,920
um now before we head to the break okay

2092
01:23:11,510 --> 01:23:07,840
with all of these tapes

2093
01:23:14,229 --> 01:23:11,520
uh from hans holzer was he

2094
01:23:15,990 --> 01:23:14,239
documenting you know the seances and the

2095
01:23:19,990 --> 01:23:16,000
sessions that he was doing

2096
01:23:22,229 --> 01:23:20,000
or uh was he also looking for evps

2097
01:23:23,270 --> 01:23:22,239
no he wasn't really that's the funny

2098
01:23:25,350 --> 01:23:23,280
thing i mean we

2099
01:23:27,110 --> 01:23:25,360
um i don't want to give something away

2100
01:23:27,910 --> 01:23:27,120
but we uncover something in his original

2101
01:23:31,110 --> 01:23:27,920
recordings

2102
01:23:34,550 --> 01:23:31,120
that he missed um

2103
01:23:36,550 --> 01:23:34,560
and you you hear it in this episode so

2104
01:23:37,830 --> 01:23:36,560
i you know again i think he might have

2105
01:23:39,669 --> 01:23:37,840
just given up on listening to it because

2106
01:23:41,030 --> 01:23:39,679
it was so irritating but we combed

2107
01:23:44,070 --> 01:23:41,040
through every minute because

2108
01:23:45,750 --> 01:23:44,080
is there is there a sign is there a clue

2109
01:23:47,270 --> 01:23:45,760
that we need to that could open up the

2110
01:23:49,030 --> 01:23:47,280
door to the next part of the you know

2111
01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:49,040
the evolution of this investigation

2112
01:23:52,390 --> 01:23:51,280
so he was there more to document

2113
01:23:55,189 --> 01:23:52,400
everything that was said so that when

2114
01:23:57,189 --> 01:23:55,199
he'd write his books he could transcribe

2115
01:23:59,110 --> 01:23:57,199
what the medium said what he said how

2116
01:24:00,149 --> 01:23:59,120
they provoked the spirits into and i

2117
01:24:01,030 --> 01:24:00,159
don't mean that in a bad way but

2118
01:24:03,030 --> 01:24:01,040
provoked them

2119
01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:03,040
to speak with him and what they had to

2120
01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:04,400
share

2121
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:07,920
because of what is revealed and it's

2122
01:24:11,510 --> 01:24:10,480
absolutely startling by the way uh this

2123
01:24:13,910 --> 01:24:11,520
thursday

2124
01:24:16,790 --> 01:24:13,920
uh are you thinking about going back and

2125
01:24:19,510 --> 01:24:16,800
listening a little more closely

2126
01:24:21,030 --> 01:24:19,520
to to his tapes to see if he did capture

2127
01:24:22,629 --> 01:24:21,040
something

2128
01:24:24,310 --> 01:24:22,639
you know here's the deal we've got a

2129
01:24:27,270 --> 01:24:24,320
great team behind us so

2130
01:24:28,790 --> 01:24:27,280
you see gabe roth alexandra holzer they

2131
01:24:30,709 --> 01:24:28,800
comb through a lot of that

2132
01:24:32,149 --> 01:24:30,719
audio then we have producers behind the

2133
01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:32,159
scenes listening to it

2134
01:24:36,070 --> 01:24:34,480
intently because trust me they would

2135
01:24:38,310 --> 01:24:36,080
love to find things that we could

2136
01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:38,320
ping off of so they're all listening

2137
01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:40,320
everybody's doing their due diligence

2138
01:24:44,550 --> 01:24:42,880
uh for every episode and then you know

2139
01:24:45,830 --> 01:24:44,560
shane and i will poke our nose in from

2140
01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:45,840
time to time to try to listen and give

2141
01:24:49,189 --> 01:24:47,360
them a fresh set of ears

2142
01:24:50,629 --> 01:24:49,199
uh or a fresh set of eyes on something

2143
01:24:51,910 --> 01:24:50,639
to say hey you know or they'll send

2144
01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:51,920
something to us and say dave what do you

2145
01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:54,000
make of this and i was now that's

2146
01:24:57,910 --> 01:24:55,840
you know that's the sound of uh han

2147
01:24:59,430 --> 01:24:57,920
zipping his jacket up and it was just in

2148
01:25:00,950 --> 01:24:59,440
correspondence with them asking a

2149
01:25:04,310 --> 01:25:00,960
question and you know

2150
01:25:06,229 --> 01:25:04,320
are you here is the zip sound of

2151
01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:06,239
going up so then oh yeah yeah i can hear

2152
01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:07,920
that now and we'll chat through things

2153
01:25:11,350 --> 01:25:09,360
like that but it's you know it's a very

2154
01:25:12,310 --> 01:25:11,360
uh sympatico relationship we have with

2155
01:25:13,990 --> 01:25:12,320
production and

2156
01:25:15,590 --> 01:25:14,000
we really do love each other like a

2157
01:25:17,110 --> 01:25:15,600
family everybody involved in the show is

2158
01:25:18,070 --> 01:25:17,120
important to me and i'm really pleased

2159
01:25:20,709 --> 01:25:18,080
to be a part of this

2160
01:25:22,310 --> 01:25:20,719
yeah shane is such a professional i got

2161
01:25:23,510 --> 01:25:22,320
about five minutes before the break so

2162
01:25:25,750 --> 01:25:23,520
i'm gonna give you

2163
01:25:28,070 --> 01:25:25,760
uh an open floor to talk about shane for

2164
01:25:31,350 --> 01:25:28,080
a second in that he's professional

2165
01:25:35,510 --> 01:25:31,360
he's cool right he's pretty manly

2166
01:25:37,830 --> 01:25:35,520
yep but he's a magnet for for for stuff

2167
01:25:38,709 --> 01:25:37,840
well you know here's what is up with

2168
01:25:40,709 --> 01:25:38,719
that

2169
01:25:42,629 --> 01:25:40,719
because here's and this is why we love

2170
01:25:43,510 --> 01:25:42,639
shane a lot you know people abuse him

2171
01:25:45,110 --> 01:25:43,520
online

2172
01:25:46,070 --> 01:25:45,120
uh most people love him i'm gonna be

2173
01:25:47,830 --> 01:25:46,080
honest with you but there you know you

2174
01:25:49,750 --> 01:25:47,840
get the people are like oh

2175
01:25:51,669 --> 01:25:49,760
he would i would never jump maybe you

2176
01:25:53,510 --> 01:25:51,679
need to replace him he's the weak link

2177
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:53,520
and he's really not you know i i

2178
01:25:58,790 --> 01:25:55,199
describe the show this way

2179
01:26:01,270 --> 01:25:58,800
alexandra is the voice of her father

2180
01:26:03,350 --> 01:26:01,280
she is tying the old cases to the new

2181
01:26:04,870 --> 01:26:03,360
cases giving us the insights that her

2182
01:26:07,030 --> 01:26:04,880
father shared with her

2183
01:26:07,990 --> 01:26:07,040
as she combs through the notes sharing

2184
01:26:10,629 --> 01:26:08,000
what her father

2185
01:26:11,189 --> 01:26:10,639
had to see and say gabe finds these

2186
01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:11,199
files

2187
01:26:14,550 --> 01:26:12,880
and he's an integral part and then

2188
01:26:15,189 --> 01:26:14,560
brings them to her she combs through

2189
01:26:17,110 --> 01:26:15,199
them to

2190
01:26:18,790 --> 01:26:17,120
educate herself on the files so she can

2191
01:26:20,470 --> 01:26:18,800
speak for her father

2192
01:26:21,910 --> 01:26:20,480
then cindy does something that none of

2193
01:26:24,149 --> 01:26:21,920
us can do well i

2194
01:26:26,550 --> 01:26:24,159
shouldn't say that uh alexandra is a

2195
01:26:27,910 --> 01:26:26,560
very proficient medium as well she's an

2196
01:26:31,110 --> 01:26:27,920
empath and a medium

2197
01:26:31,669 --> 01:26:31,120
um but cindy out of our working team on

2198
01:26:34,310 --> 01:26:31,679
the

2199
01:26:35,030 --> 01:26:34,320
investigations cindy does something that

2200
01:26:37,669 --> 01:26:35,040
shane and i

2201
01:26:38,629 --> 01:26:37,679
cannot really do which is tap in

2202
01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:38,639
whenever

2203
01:26:45,189 --> 01:26:42,800
um and then i'm you know i'm kind of the

2204
01:26:46,870 --> 01:26:45,199
tom brokaw right i'm the one asking the

2205
01:26:48,550 --> 01:26:46,880
questions the hard questions

2206
01:26:50,950 --> 01:26:48,560
trying to push the historians and the

2207
01:26:52,790 --> 01:26:50,960
experiencers as far as i can to get as

2208
01:26:53,830 --> 01:26:52,800
much from them that could unlock this

2209
01:26:55,990 --> 01:26:53,840
case

2210
01:26:58,070 --> 01:26:56,000
and then shane is really that heart of

2211
01:27:00,629 --> 01:26:58,080
the show he is the connection between

2212
01:27:01,669 --> 01:27:00,639
you the audience and us as the

2213
01:27:03,590 --> 01:27:01,679
investigators

2214
01:27:04,790 --> 01:27:03,600
and i think because he loves us with

2215
01:27:07,110 --> 01:27:04,800
such passion

2216
01:27:09,430 --> 01:27:07,120
and he loves doing what he does but he

2217
01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:09,440
does get unnerved and things do pick on

2218
01:27:12,950 --> 01:27:10,639
him i think that's because

2219
01:27:14,149 --> 01:27:12,960
he is the reluctant one of the group he

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01:27:16,149 --> 01:27:14,159
is the one that's

2221
01:27:18,310 --> 01:27:16,159
you can see physically when i say okay

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01:27:20,310 --> 01:27:18,320
shane into the basement he goes oh man

2223
01:27:21,830 --> 01:27:20,320
right now listen if you're a ghost who

2224
01:27:24,470 --> 01:27:21,840
are you gonna have fun with

2225
01:27:26,470 --> 01:27:24,480
the the stoic 50 year old guy with the

2226
01:27:27,669 --> 01:27:26,480
leather jacket who thinks he's a badass

2227
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:27,679
and shaft you know or

2228
01:27:30,870 --> 01:27:29,360
or the medium who can already see and

2229
01:27:31,990 --> 01:27:30,880
sense you or are you gonna mess with the

2230
01:27:34,229 --> 01:27:32,000
kid who's uh

2231
01:27:36,149 --> 01:27:34,239
a little jumpy right i can tell you who

2232
01:27:38,870 --> 01:27:36,159
my target would be if i was a ghost

2233
01:27:40,310 --> 01:27:38,880
so i i think that he he's open he goes

2234
01:27:41,910 --> 01:27:40,320
in with an open heart and love and

2235
01:27:44,470 --> 01:27:41,920
respect and he asks and

2236
01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:44,480
he receives he gets these moments of

2237
01:27:48,149 --> 01:27:46,000
communication and i think that they

2238
01:27:50,070 --> 01:27:48,159
feed on that energy that kind of kinetic

2239
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:50,080
chaotic energy he has of

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01:27:53,110 --> 01:27:51,520
wanting there to be an answer but

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01:27:56,390 --> 01:27:53,120
terrified that he might get one

2242
01:27:57,830 --> 01:27:56,400
and i think that you have to be aware of

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01:27:58,709 --> 01:27:57,840
yourself physically and your

2244
01:28:02,470 --> 01:27:58,719
surroundings

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01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:02,480
something that i wasn't aware of

2246
01:28:06,390 --> 01:28:05,360
aboard the queen mary i was too focused

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01:28:09,430 --> 01:28:06,400
on other things

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01:28:12,709 --> 01:28:09,440
being you know new to an investigation

2249
01:28:15,830 --> 01:28:12,719
but shane is cognizant

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01:28:16,709 --> 01:28:15,840
of the atmosphere physically where his

2251
01:28:19,669 --> 01:28:16,719
body is at

2252
01:28:22,390 --> 01:28:19,679
and he's able to recognize these very

2253
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:22,400
subtle changes that may be happening

2254
01:28:26,390 --> 01:28:24,400
you know in the ether in the atmosphere

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01:28:28,950 --> 01:28:26,400
around you and that's why he reacts

2256
01:28:31,910 --> 01:28:28,960
because he's sensitive to it right

2257
01:28:32,629 --> 01:28:31,920
right he is and he is he's a father he's

2258
01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:32,639
a husband

2259
01:28:35,910 --> 01:28:34,880
he's a brother he's a son he you know

2260
01:28:38,390 --> 01:28:35,920
he's he's

2261
01:28:40,629 --> 01:28:38,400
all these connections so he he can

2262
01:28:42,790 --> 01:28:40,639
relate he's very sweet and empathic

2263
01:28:44,709 --> 01:28:42,800
in that sense um and maybe i shouldn't

2264
01:28:47,430 --> 01:28:44,719
say empathic but empathetic

2265
01:28:49,350 --> 01:28:47,440
in those instances and i i will mention

2266
01:28:50,470 --> 01:28:49,360
this and he's been kind enough to let me

2267
01:28:51,990 --> 01:28:50,480
joke with him a little bit about this

2268
01:28:52,629 --> 01:28:52,000
but some of the reasons i send him into

2269
01:28:54,550 --> 01:28:52,639
these

2270
01:28:56,470 --> 01:28:54,560
crappy places isn't because i'm trying

2271
01:28:57,350 --> 01:28:56,480
to punish him it's a because he gets

2272
01:29:00,310 --> 01:28:57,360
great results

2273
01:29:00,790 --> 01:29:00,320
but b a lot of these places are built

2274
01:29:02,550 --> 01:29:00,800
100

2275
01:29:04,310 --> 01:29:02,560
200 years ago and they were built for

2276
01:29:06,229 --> 01:29:04,320
people that are five feet tall

2277
01:29:07,910 --> 01:29:06,239
and i'm six feet six feet one in my

2278
01:29:09,990 --> 01:29:07,920
boots and

2279
01:29:11,910 --> 01:29:10,000
you know i can't stand comfortably in an

2280
01:29:12,550 --> 01:29:11,920
attic or in the crawl space or in the

2281
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:12,560
basement

2282
01:29:15,990 --> 01:29:14,800
he can and you see that in our last

2283
01:29:17,110 --> 01:29:16,000
week's episode when we're up in the

2284
01:29:19,270 --> 01:29:17,120
attic i'm kind of hunched

2285
01:29:21,350 --> 01:29:19,280
and he's standing with a lot of headroom

2286
01:29:22,550 --> 01:29:21,360
so i sent him to those places not as a

2287
01:29:24,709 --> 01:29:22,560
punishment but because

2288
01:29:25,669 --> 01:29:24,719
he can get in them and get out of them

2289
01:29:27,750 --> 01:29:25,679
quickly

2290
01:29:29,030 --> 01:29:27,760
whereas something bothers me up there

2291
01:29:30,149 --> 01:29:29,040
i'm screwed if i try to get out i'm

2292
01:29:31,990 --> 01:29:30,159
probably going to jump up and knock

2293
01:29:34,390 --> 01:29:32,000
myself out on a plank of wood which

2294
01:29:35,350 --> 01:29:34,400
i'm sure people would love to see but uh

2295
01:29:37,430 --> 01:29:35,360
yeah shane is

2296
01:29:39,430 --> 01:29:37,440
is great and he's you know he's tied in

2297
01:29:41,189 --> 01:29:39,440
with all these people

2298
01:29:43,030 --> 01:29:41,199
trying to bring new experiments trying

2299
01:29:44,070 --> 01:29:43,040
to see what we can do to push the

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01:29:46,790 --> 01:29:44,080
envelope and

2301
01:29:48,629 --> 01:29:46,800
investigate and bring new tools let's uh

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01:29:49,750 --> 01:29:48,639
take our break right here dave you stay

2303
01:29:51,189 --> 01:29:49,760
right there i want to mention to

2304
01:29:52,229 --> 01:29:51,199
everybody that at the beginning of the

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01:29:55,110 --> 01:29:52,239
show tonight

2306
01:29:57,510 --> 01:29:55,120
i talked about data collection talked

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01:29:59,189 --> 01:29:57,520
about it very specifically and i want

2308
01:30:02,709 --> 01:29:59,199
everybody to know

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01:30:05,110 --> 01:30:02,719
that last year websites shared over 100

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01:30:08,070 --> 01:30:05,120
trillion pieces of personal data

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01:30:08,870 --> 01:30:08,080
this is data taken on users of various

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01:30:11,830 --> 01:30:08,880
websites

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01:30:12,629 --> 01:30:11,840
like the one that you are on right now

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01:30:15,510 --> 01:30:12,639
listening

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01:30:17,430 --> 01:30:15,520
to me i don't like being spied on by

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advertisers i don't like being spied on

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01:30:21,990 --> 01:30:18,960
by anybody i don't want

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01:30:24,709 --> 01:30:22,000
anybody collecting my data

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01:30:26,550 --> 01:30:24,719
and selling it and using it all right

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now if you want to browse the internet

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anonymously and securely

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like i do i want you to visit

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fade to virtualshield.com right that's

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forward slash fade to black or you can

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click on the link

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in the video description box below

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the holzer files we will be back after

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this short break and we are going to

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hi

2419
01:34:50,149 --> 01:34:48,880
i'm rhys evans you're listening to jimmy

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01:34:53,109 --> 01:34:50,159
church this is

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01:34:53,990 --> 01:34:53,119
revolution the revolution will not be

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ciao

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01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:40,149
mm-hmm

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01:35:44,149 --> 01:35:41,990
welcome back peter black i am your host

2426
01:35:45,910 --> 01:35:44,159
jimmy church tonight dave schrader

2427
01:35:47,510 --> 01:35:45,920
talking about the holzer files in a very

2428
01:35:47,910 --> 01:35:47,520
special episode that is going to air

2429
01:35:50,310 --> 01:35:47,920
this

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01:35:52,149 --> 01:35:50,320
thursday on the travel channel tomorrow

2431
01:35:53,590 --> 01:35:52,159
night rick delano is here

2432
01:35:55,669 --> 01:35:53,600
we're going to talk about his new hit

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01:35:56,550 --> 01:35:55,679
film it is amazing the end of quantum

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01:35:59,510 --> 01:35:56,560
reality

2435
01:35:59,990 --> 01:35:59,520
and then wednesday night stephen bassett

2436
01:36:07,030 --> 01:36:00,000
uh

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01:36:08,709 --> 01:36:07,040
truly i mean without question the

2438
01:36:10,310 --> 01:36:08,719
craziest time in the history of the

2439
01:36:10,870 --> 01:36:10,320
world right we're living through it

2440
01:36:15,030 --> 01:36:10,880
right now

2441
01:36:18,390 --> 01:36:15,040
2020. um is this

2442
01:36:20,149 --> 01:36:18,400
is this how do i say this

2443
01:36:21,910 --> 01:36:20,159
i don't want to say a catalyst to

2444
01:36:28,390 --> 01:36:21,920
paranormal activity

2445
01:36:32,709 --> 01:36:28,400
uh amplified because of the tension

2446
01:36:35,910 --> 01:36:33,990
you know it's hard to say what came

2447
01:36:39,750 --> 01:36:35,920
first the chicken or the egg you know

2448
01:36:41,030 --> 01:36:39,760
um i think we went in to re-examine some

2449
01:36:43,270 --> 01:36:41,040
of these episodes and

2450
01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:43,280
um a lot of these places have been

2451
01:36:47,830 --> 01:36:45,520
closed for three to four months

2452
01:36:49,910 --> 01:36:47,840
because of covid and their spirits were

2453
01:36:51,590 --> 01:36:49,920
not getting the attention they once did

2454
01:36:54,310 --> 01:36:51,600
they weren't getting

2455
01:36:55,189 --> 01:36:54,320
uh the attention they weren't they

2456
01:36:57,750 --> 01:36:55,199
weren't getting the

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01:36:58,870 --> 01:36:57,760
affection or the fear that they were

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01:37:00,470 --> 01:36:58,880
looking for

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01:37:01,990 --> 01:37:00,480
and when we went in it was like they

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01:37:03,990 --> 01:37:02,000
were hungry they

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01:37:06,550 --> 01:37:04,000
let us know they were there they made

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01:37:09,510 --> 01:37:06,560
themselves very present

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01:37:11,030 --> 01:37:09,520
to us uh i there's something going on in

2464
01:37:12,629 --> 01:37:11,040
the world i can't put my finger on

2465
01:37:16,149 --> 01:37:12,639
exactly

2466
01:37:17,830 --> 01:37:16,159
i know that i've been hearing a lot of

2467
01:37:21,350 --> 01:37:17,840
things behind the scenes

2468
01:37:24,629 --> 01:37:21,360
uh i think that we're on the precipice

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01:37:27,109 --> 01:37:24,639
of a global

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01:37:28,550 --> 01:37:27,119
change and i know i'm sounding very

2471
01:37:29,270 --> 01:37:28,560
cryptic and i don't mean to be and i'm

2472
01:37:32,390 --> 01:37:29,280
sure it's

2473
01:37:33,910 --> 01:37:32,400
irritating a very vague book but um

2474
01:37:35,750 --> 01:37:33,920
i don't have enough answers to give

2475
01:37:37,830 --> 01:37:35,760
solid responses

2476
01:37:39,830 --> 01:37:37,840
to go any further but i think that our i

2477
01:37:40,390 --> 01:37:39,840
think i think our little experiment here

2478
01:37:43,350 --> 01:37:40,400
on earth

2479
01:37:44,229 --> 01:37:43,360
is not going the way the creator or

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01:37:47,350 --> 01:37:44,239
creators

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01:37:49,109 --> 01:37:47,360
believed it should and i wouldn't be

2482
01:37:52,550 --> 01:37:49,119
i wouldn't be surprised if things get

2483
01:37:56,310 --> 01:37:56,070
okay not to be yeah right exactly not to

2484
01:37:58,950 --> 01:37:56,320
be

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01:37:59,990 --> 01:37:58,960
cryptic right you're not surprising

2486
01:38:02,229 --> 01:38:00,000
anybody by

2487
01:38:03,430 --> 01:38:02,239
suggesting this right now i don't think

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01:38:06,310 --> 01:38:03,440
anything

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01:38:06,790 --> 01:38:06,320
uh would come as a surprise you know i

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01:38:08,550 --> 01:38:06,800
mean

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01:38:09,750 --> 01:38:08,560
at this point no i think that's why this

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01:38:10,950 --> 01:38:09,760
is the year that there's been more

2493
01:38:12,550 --> 01:38:10,960
disclosure than ever

2494
01:38:13,990 --> 01:38:12,560
they've gotten amazing photographs of

2495
01:38:15,430 --> 01:38:14,000
the loch ness monster

2496
01:38:17,109 --> 01:38:15,440
uh more and more people are having

2497
01:38:20,709 --> 01:38:17,119
paranormal experiences

2498
01:38:24,709 --> 01:38:20,719
um you know so there's there's something

2499
01:38:27,189 --> 01:38:24,719
awakening i agree and which takes me to

2500
01:38:30,310 --> 01:38:27,199
another nice segue that was tossed to me

2501
01:38:33,590 --> 01:38:30,320
uh from dave schrader so well done um is

2502
01:38:34,709 --> 01:38:33,600
cindy um i want to talk let's talk about

2503
01:38:38,070 --> 01:38:34,719
her for a second

2504
01:38:41,430 --> 01:38:38,080
she seems to uh

2505
01:38:44,550 --> 01:38:41,440
her on off switch is broken

2506
01:38:46,149 --> 01:38:44,560
right right i'm not wrong no she's

2507
01:38:48,310 --> 01:38:46,159
she's actually very proficient at

2508
01:38:50,390 --> 01:38:48,320
shutting down but when she gets into

2509
01:38:53,350 --> 01:38:50,400
that mindset it comes flooding in

2510
01:38:54,709 --> 01:38:53,360
she gets you know it's like uh making

2511
01:38:56,070 --> 01:38:54,719
the sausage you're cramming all this

2512
01:38:56,709 --> 01:38:56,080
meat in and grinding it through this

2513
01:38:58,390 --> 01:38:56,719
little hole

2514
01:38:59,910 --> 01:38:58,400
at the end and she's trying to make

2515
01:39:00,950 --> 01:38:59,920
sense of it and i give her a lot of

2516
01:39:02,390 --> 01:39:00,960
credit jimmy because we'll go into

2517
01:39:05,350 --> 01:39:02,400
locations that have

2518
01:39:05,750 --> 01:39:05,360
200 years of history and we're asking to

2519
01:39:09,350 --> 01:39:05,760
ping

2520
01:39:10,870 --> 01:39:09,360
one story right that's like asking to

2521
01:39:14,390 --> 01:39:10,880
reach into the piano

2522
01:39:16,229 --> 01:39:14,400
blindly and pluck just the one key right

2523
01:39:18,070 --> 01:39:16,239
the one string without bumping any

2524
01:39:19,830 --> 01:39:18,080
others and it's it's really hard to do

2525
01:39:23,109 --> 01:39:19,840
and a lot of it bleeds through and

2526
01:39:23,750 --> 01:39:23,119
she has to sift through that crap to get

2527
01:39:26,070 --> 01:39:23,760
to what

2528
01:39:27,030 --> 01:39:26,080
is relevant to the story we're there to

2529
01:39:30,229 --> 01:39:27,040
investigate

2530
01:39:32,390 --> 01:39:30,239
now how difficult is it to have

2531
01:39:34,310 --> 01:39:32,400
uh two other investigators with you like

2532
01:39:36,229 --> 01:39:34,320
shane and cindy

2533
01:39:38,629 --> 01:39:36,239
because you all three have different

2534
01:39:40,950 --> 01:39:38,639
approaches you all three have different

2535
01:39:42,629 --> 01:39:40,960
maybe questions that you want to ask or

2536
01:39:46,310 --> 01:39:42,639
approach things from a different

2537
01:39:47,990 --> 01:39:46,320
angle um i i found that when i was doing

2538
01:39:49,669 --> 01:39:48,000
my investigation when you have two or

2539
01:39:51,750 --> 01:39:49,679
three people in the room

2540
01:39:52,709 --> 01:39:51,760
uh trying to communicate it's three

2541
01:39:55,590 --> 01:39:52,719
different ideas

2542
01:39:58,070 --> 01:39:55,600
three different approaches to it um does

2543
01:40:00,390 --> 01:39:58,080
that confuse the spirits

2544
01:40:01,510 --> 01:40:00,400
should should somebody take the lead if

2545
01:40:03,030 --> 01:40:01,520
you know what i mean

2546
01:40:04,550 --> 01:40:03,040
i don't i don't know i mean i don't

2547
01:40:07,030 --> 01:40:04,560
think so because that's why we'll do

2548
01:40:09,109 --> 01:40:07,040
separate investigations to to areas that

2549
01:40:11,270 --> 01:40:09,119
kind of call to us

2550
01:40:12,310 --> 01:40:11,280
um you know on each episode we start off

2551
01:40:13,669 --> 01:40:12,320
together uh

2552
01:40:15,270 --> 01:40:13,679
and then we'll break up because if

2553
01:40:17,590 --> 01:40:15,280
cindy's feeling pulled to a specific

2554
01:40:20,550 --> 01:40:17,600
area i don't want to pollute her

2555
01:40:21,189 --> 01:40:20,560
and you know we all carry our own energy

2556
01:40:23,590 --> 01:40:21,199
and our own

2557
01:40:25,510 --> 01:40:23,600
baggage and she's trying to tap in it's

2558
01:40:28,229 --> 01:40:25,520
already hard enough and then she's got

2559
01:40:29,109 --> 01:40:28,239
camera guy and dave and shane next to

2560
01:40:30,950 --> 01:40:29,119
her and she's

2561
01:40:32,709 --> 01:40:30,960
now got to get through our crap too so

2562
01:40:34,870 --> 01:40:32,719
sometimes it's good to pull out and

2563
01:40:36,390 --> 01:40:34,880
and just allow everybody their breathing

2564
01:40:38,790 --> 01:40:36,400
room which is my point

2565
01:40:40,950 --> 01:40:38,800
but that's exactly my point right and

2566
01:40:43,109 --> 01:40:40,960
and shane is focused on the technology

2567
01:40:45,910 --> 01:40:43,119
and seeing if things will trigger

2568
01:40:46,470 --> 01:40:45,920
uh cindy's really chimed in on the the

2569
01:40:49,990 --> 01:40:46,480
actual

2570
01:40:53,430 --> 01:40:50,000
spirit uh direct contact that that is

2571
01:40:55,350 --> 01:40:53,440
unseen and then i you know

2572
01:40:56,790 --> 01:40:55,360
still being kind of the investigator of

2573
01:40:59,590 --> 01:40:56,800
this uh you know

2574
01:41:01,590 --> 01:40:59,600
i try to go in holes or why i try to use

2575
01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:01,600
limited equipment

2576
01:41:05,030 --> 01:41:03,440
and i want to be in the moment i know

2577
01:41:07,109 --> 01:41:05,040
i've got cameras all over

2578
01:41:08,390 --> 01:41:07,119
so i'm not as worried about carrying a

2579
01:41:10,790 --> 01:41:08,400
camera or

2580
01:41:11,510 --> 01:41:10,800
equipment with me i want my recorder i

2581
01:41:16,790 --> 01:41:11,520
want my

2582
01:41:18,709 --> 01:41:16,800
maybe if i've got one tool with me to

2583
01:41:20,229 --> 01:41:18,719
try to work it or i'll set up other

2584
01:41:22,070 --> 01:41:20,239
tools in the room and

2585
01:41:23,669 --> 01:41:22,080
see what we can uncover with that but i

2586
01:41:25,030 --> 01:41:23,679
really want to be in the moment because

2587
01:41:26,790 --> 01:41:25,040
i feel like

2588
01:41:28,950 --> 01:41:26,800
when they feel you're distracted they

2589
01:41:30,709 --> 01:41:28,960
might not be willing to give you as much

2590
01:41:31,990 --> 01:41:30,719
or make it their way known and sometimes

2591
01:41:34,310 --> 01:41:32,000
the spirit might

2592
01:41:35,750 --> 01:41:34,320
be communicating with me that wouldn't

2593
01:41:36,709 --> 01:41:35,760
communicate with cindy or shane it's

2594
01:41:38,709 --> 01:41:36,719
like being at a bar

2595
01:41:40,629 --> 01:41:38,719
right you you and i could be standing

2596
01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:40,639
next to josh gates and

2597
01:41:45,669 --> 01:41:43,760
you know josh is gonna get attention

2598
01:41:47,109 --> 01:41:45,679
right and then you will get attention

2599
01:41:48,390 --> 01:41:47,119
from a different group of people than i

2600
01:41:49,910 --> 01:41:48,400
will get attention and i think that's

2601
01:41:51,270 --> 01:41:49,920
what happens in the spirit realm

2602
01:41:54,149 --> 01:41:51,280
we're all kind of keyed into different

2603
01:41:55,510 --> 01:41:54,159
elements and we can bring these things

2604
01:41:58,950 --> 01:41:55,520
to the investigation

2605
01:42:01,510 --> 01:41:58,960
and hopefully connect with something

2606
01:42:03,430 --> 01:42:01,520
that will want to respond back to us

2607
01:42:05,270 --> 01:42:03,440
let's be very clear if you and i and

2608
01:42:10,070 --> 01:42:05,280
josh gates are in a bar

2609
01:42:13,669 --> 01:42:11,830
i got to tell you a funny story uh you

2610
01:42:14,950 --> 01:42:13,679
do you know johnny houser who runs the

2611
01:42:18,070 --> 01:42:14,960
valiska axe murder house

2612
01:42:19,910 --> 01:42:18,080
i do well i know who he is yes right so

2613
01:42:21,270 --> 01:42:19,920
i i was not familiar with johnny at this

2614
01:42:24,149 --> 01:42:21,280
point in my career uh

2615
01:42:25,030 --> 01:42:24,159
it was like 10 years ago we were at uh

2616
01:42:28,070 --> 01:42:25,040
scarefest

2617
01:42:29,430 --> 01:42:28,080
in lexington kentucky and josh gates and

2618
01:42:31,510 --> 01:42:29,440
i had bumped into each other

2619
01:42:33,350 --> 01:42:31,520
a couple of times and we really we we've

2620
01:42:35,430 --> 01:42:33,360
got a good brother

2621
01:42:37,030 --> 01:42:35,440
relationship with one another we feed

2622
01:42:37,750 --> 01:42:37,040
off each other well we we like each

2623
01:42:39,750 --> 01:42:37,760
other and

2624
01:42:41,189 --> 01:42:39,760
i was standing in the bar and gates

2625
01:42:42,550 --> 01:42:41,199
walks over to me and he's you know

2626
01:42:43,910 --> 01:42:42,560
schrader let me buy you a drink so we're

2627
01:42:45,669 --> 01:42:43,920
just standing there kind of wall

2628
01:42:48,070 --> 01:42:45,679
flowering while everybody's

2629
01:42:49,910 --> 01:42:48,080
all around us and this young lady comes

2630
01:42:51,990 --> 01:42:49,920
walking up and she's like trembling and

2631
01:42:54,229 --> 01:42:52,000
she's like oh my god

2632
01:42:56,310 --> 01:42:54,239
and i'm like oh here we go josh gates

2633
01:42:58,950 --> 01:42:56,320
she goes dave schrader and

2634
01:43:01,669 --> 01:42:58,960
josh gates i can't believe you're my

2635
01:43:02,790 --> 01:43:01,679
favorite radio guy my favorite tv guy

2636
01:43:04,709 --> 01:43:02,800
the only thing that could make this

2637
01:43:07,270 --> 01:43:04,719
better is if johnny houser were here

2638
01:43:08,950 --> 01:43:07,280
and and josh and i just paused when we

2639
01:43:11,109 --> 01:43:08,960
give this slow look to each other like

2640
01:43:12,390 --> 01:43:11,119
what the hell is it johnny houser and

2641
01:43:14,629 --> 01:43:12,400
she goes can i get a picture with you

2642
01:43:17,350 --> 01:43:14,639
we're like sure so she's posing with us

2643
01:43:19,430 --> 01:43:17,360
and all of a sudden squeals because in

2644
01:43:21,590 --> 01:43:19,440
walks johnny hauser

2645
01:43:23,350 --> 01:43:21,600
johnny runs the villisca axe murder

2646
01:43:25,430 --> 01:43:23,360
house and

2647
01:43:26,870 --> 01:43:25,440
she goes oh my god could could we get

2648
01:43:27,990 --> 01:43:26,880
johnny in the picture and gates and i

2649
01:43:31,030 --> 01:43:28,000
look at each other and we go

2650
01:43:32,950 --> 01:43:31,040
of course we can it's johnny houser

2651
01:43:34,229 --> 01:43:32,960
and we bring him in and you know the

2652
01:43:35,510 --> 01:43:34,239
three of us kind of connected at that

2653
01:43:35,990 --> 01:43:35,520
moment and just had a good time but it

2654
01:43:37,510 --> 01:43:36,000
was

2655
01:43:39,350 --> 01:43:37,520
fun to be in an environment for the

2656
01:43:39,990 --> 01:43:39,360
first time where somebody was excited

2657
01:43:41,830 --> 01:43:40,000
that

2658
01:43:44,070 --> 01:43:41,840
as equally excited to see me as they

2659
01:43:46,390 --> 01:43:44,080
were for josh gates so that's my one win

2660
01:43:48,550 --> 01:43:46,400
and i'll take it uh uh okay i'm gonna

2661
01:43:50,229 --> 01:43:48,560
tell my funny story

2662
01:43:51,990 --> 01:43:50,239
it doesn't involve josh gates but it's

2663
01:43:54,470 --> 01:43:52,000
just as cool so we're

2664
01:43:55,750 --> 01:43:54,480
uh we're at a conference and we're in

2665
01:43:58,550 --> 01:43:55,760
the lounge

2666
01:44:00,229 --> 01:43:58,560
um i've got the fader knots around me uh

2667
01:44:03,430 --> 01:44:00,239
it's uh

2668
01:44:05,830 --> 01:44:03,440
it's loud it's fun we're drinking and

2669
01:44:07,189 --> 01:44:05,840
there's you know 150 people in there

2670
01:44:09,510 --> 01:44:07,199
right it's all good

2671
01:44:12,149 --> 01:44:09,520
okay all right you picking up what i'm

2672
01:44:16,310 --> 01:44:12,159
putting down i'm i'm there with you okay

2673
01:44:19,350 --> 01:44:16,320
and then in walks sean stone

2674
01:44:23,669 --> 01:44:19,360
and sean stone walks in

2675
01:44:27,510 --> 01:44:23,679
and the place went silent

2676
01:44:30,870 --> 01:44:27,520
and and i just and i turn around like

2677
01:44:32,149 --> 01:44:30,880
i want to be that guy once i just want

2678
01:44:34,310 --> 01:44:32,159
to be

2679
01:44:35,430 --> 01:44:34,320
i want to you know i want to know what

2680
01:44:37,990 --> 01:44:35,440
that's like

2681
01:44:38,870 --> 01:44:38,000
you know and it was so funny he walked

2682
01:44:41,109 --> 01:44:38,880
up and

2683
01:44:43,350 --> 01:44:41,119
started chat and the volume kind of came

2684
01:44:45,109 --> 01:44:43,360
back but for a moment there

2685
01:44:46,629 --> 01:44:45,119
it was like crazy town i couldn't

2686
01:44:49,030 --> 01:44:46,639
believe it i i

2687
01:44:50,790 --> 01:44:49,040
it was there's more to the story i'll

2688
01:44:54,629 --> 01:44:50,800
tell you that off of the air

2689
01:44:56,149 --> 01:44:54,639
but uh wow right and and how somebody

2690
01:44:59,030 --> 01:44:56,159
can have that control how

2691
01:45:00,070 --> 01:44:59,040
how quickly i became invisible it was it

2692
01:45:04,149 --> 01:45:00,080
was

2693
01:45:08,310 --> 01:45:04,159
to

2694
01:45:10,709 --> 01:45:08,320
element

2695
01:45:11,350 --> 01:45:10,719
that i wanted to ask you about are you

2696
01:45:13,750 --> 01:45:11,360
are you

2697
01:45:14,790 --> 01:45:13,760
cognizant i said cognizant twice in the

2698
01:45:18,070 --> 01:45:14,800
same show

2699
01:45:21,109 --> 01:45:18,080
about what you wear and the reason

2700
01:45:22,629 --> 01:45:21,119
why i'm and i'm being serious is

2701
01:45:24,310 --> 01:45:22,639
um if you're going to go do an

2702
01:45:27,510 --> 01:45:24,320
investigation uh

2703
01:45:31,030 --> 01:45:27,520
at a 1850s uh

2704
01:45:32,310 --> 01:45:31,040
jail are you going to think about what

2705
01:45:34,070 --> 01:45:32,320
you're wearing

2706
01:45:35,669 --> 01:45:34,080
are you going to are you going to go in

2707
01:45:38,550 --> 01:45:35,679
as a cowboy or if

2708
01:45:40,709 --> 01:45:38,560
you know what i mean do you i haven't

2709
01:45:41,669 --> 01:45:40,719
really trigger object myself up yet is

2710
01:45:43,109 --> 01:45:41,679
dressing

2711
01:45:46,550 --> 01:45:43,119
i'm all for it as a matter of fact i'd

2712
01:45:48,229 --> 01:45:46,560
love to do it uh but you know i mean

2713
01:45:49,990 --> 01:45:48,239
like first season we filmed most of it

2714
01:45:51,990 --> 01:45:50,000
in really cold weather

2715
01:45:53,030 --> 01:45:52,000
uh so basically it was just trying to

2716
01:45:54,950 --> 01:45:53,040
stay warm

2717
01:45:56,470 --> 01:45:54,960
uh this season we started in cold

2718
01:45:58,070 --> 01:45:56,480
weather had three months off and came

2719
01:45:59,590 --> 01:45:58,080
back to it in june

2720
01:46:01,910 --> 01:45:59,600
and you know here i'm in a leather

2721
01:46:04,070 --> 01:46:01,920
jacket and uh

2722
01:46:05,830 --> 01:46:04,080
jeans and a boots and i'm boiling so

2723
01:46:09,270 --> 01:46:05,840
you'll see a lot of sweaty dave

2724
01:46:12,149 --> 01:46:09,280
in season two so ladies sorry i'm taken

2725
01:46:12,550 --> 01:46:12,159
but uh yeah i don't we haven't we

2726
01:46:15,430 --> 01:46:12,560
haven't

2727
01:46:15,750 --> 01:46:15,440
geared up um to do that but i would love

2728
01:46:21,830 --> 01:46:15,760
to

2729
01:46:23,109 --> 01:46:21,840
do some of that um paranormal

2730
01:46:25,350 --> 01:46:23,119
archaeology and

2731
01:46:26,229 --> 01:46:25,360
and maybe immerse myself a little bit

2732
01:46:27,990 --> 01:46:26,239
more into it

2733
01:46:29,830 --> 01:46:28,000
i joke around because i wear a lot of

2734
01:46:31,350 --> 01:46:29,840
dark and i keep telling the the

2735
01:46:32,390 --> 01:46:31,360
producers i want to lighten up and

2736
01:46:33,510 --> 01:46:32,400
they're like no no no

2737
01:46:35,750 --> 01:46:33,520
i think they're being polite they're

2738
01:46:38,629 --> 01:46:35,760
saying black makes me look slimmer

2739
01:46:40,070 --> 01:46:38,639
uh but i said i would start wearing more

2740
01:46:41,030 --> 01:46:40,080
color maybe even tie-dye and they're

2741
01:46:42,709 --> 01:46:41,040
like schrader

2742
01:46:44,790 --> 01:46:42,719
season three season three man as a

2743
01:46:46,070 --> 01:46:44,800
matter of fact uh our executive producer

2744
01:46:49,430 --> 01:46:46,080
jim casey sent me an

2745
01:46:52,070 --> 01:46:49,440
uh audio clip from um hopper

2746
01:46:53,590 --> 01:46:52,080
from stranger things and they said what

2747
01:46:55,270 --> 01:46:53,600
what excites you about season three he

2748
01:46:55,990 --> 01:46:55,280
goes i get to pick my own shirts this

2749
01:46:58,070 --> 01:46:56,000
season

2750
01:46:59,590 --> 01:46:58,080
and he said c schrader it's not just you

2751
01:47:00,070 --> 01:46:59,600
even hopper had to wait till season

2752
01:47:03,350 --> 01:47:00,080
three

2753
01:47:05,350 --> 01:47:03,360
so uh we'll see i i like color i i wear

2754
01:47:07,109 --> 01:47:05,360
a lot of darks because again

2755
01:47:09,270 --> 01:47:07,119
you know i'm fat and i need to try to

2756
01:47:11,030 --> 01:47:09,280
look a little slimmer on tv so that's

2757
01:47:13,030 --> 01:47:11,040
it would be probably easier to just only

2758
01:47:13,350 --> 01:47:13,040
you know eat two meals a day as opposed

2759
01:47:15,830 --> 01:47:13,360
to

2760
01:47:17,109 --> 01:47:15,840
18 small meals but ah well let's just

2761
01:47:17,750 --> 01:47:17,119
stick with the black clothes for that

2762
01:47:21,669 --> 01:47:17,760
reason

2763
01:47:23,910 --> 01:47:21,679
what do you think is uh the holy grail

2764
01:47:24,709 --> 01:47:23,920
like in ufology as you know you know the

2765
01:47:28,070 --> 01:47:24,719
holy grail

2766
01:47:29,669 --> 01:47:28,080
is a is a daytime sighting

2767
01:47:31,510 --> 01:47:29,679
i don't know that i had my holy grail

2768
01:47:32,550 --> 01:47:31,520
moment in trout lake washington when i

2769
01:47:34,950 --> 01:47:32,560
saw

2770
01:47:36,709 --> 01:47:34,960
this craft fly over that i i can't

2771
01:47:38,149 --> 01:47:36,719
explain that to me was my holy grail

2772
01:47:39,910 --> 01:47:38,159
moment and people always say well

2773
01:47:41,350 --> 01:47:39,920
yeah but you didn't document it i don't

2774
01:47:43,750 --> 01:47:41,360
need to man it was for me

2775
01:47:44,550 --> 01:47:43,760
this is my life and all i'm worried

2776
01:47:47,189 --> 01:47:44,560
about is me

2777
01:47:48,310 --> 01:47:47,199
having as many amazing experiences as we

2778
01:47:50,070 --> 01:47:48,320
talked about at the beginning of our

2779
01:47:50,870 --> 01:47:50,080
interview live every day like it's your

2780
01:47:53,270 --> 01:47:50,880
last

2781
01:47:53,910 --> 01:47:53,280
because maybe there's 1500 days left

2782
01:47:55,669 --> 01:47:53,920
maybe there's

2783
01:47:57,270 --> 01:47:55,679
five hours left i'm going to try to milk

2784
01:47:59,189 --> 01:47:57,280
it for everything i can

2785
01:48:00,310 --> 01:47:59,199
and enjoy it and be a part of those

2786
01:48:02,790 --> 01:48:00,320
moments and i just

2787
01:48:03,990 --> 01:48:02,800
i want to have them for myself so i

2788
01:48:06,470 --> 01:48:04,000
think because i've always felt

2789
01:48:08,310 --> 01:48:06,480
that way that's why i've had a bigfoot

2790
01:48:11,109 --> 01:48:08,320
sighting when i was a kid

2791
01:48:11,830 --> 01:48:11,119
a ufo sighting as an adult many ghost

2792
01:48:13,750 --> 01:48:11,840
sightings

2793
01:48:15,109 --> 01:48:13,760
i try to put myself into that vein i

2794
01:48:16,709 --> 01:48:15,119
want to be there i

2795
01:48:18,229 --> 01:48:16,719
want to have these experiences you know

2796
01:48:20,390 --> 01:48:18,239
when we went to stardust ranch in

2797
01:48:22,070 --> 01:48:20,400
arizona and

2798
01:48:24,870 --> 01:48:22,080
across from the ranch is this big

2799
01:48:27,350 --> 01:48:24,880
mountain range where ufos are seen

2800
01:48:28,310 --> 01:48:27,360
and i asked you know they put me up

2801
01:48:29,350 --> 01:48:28,320
there alone i

2802
01:48:31,830 --> 01:48:29,360
asked if they would take my

2803
01:48:32,510 --> 01:48:31,840
walkie-talkie and phone i said i want to

2804
01:48:37,669 --> 01:48:32,520
be

2805
01:48:39,350 --> 01:48:37,679
if they're watching they're smarter than

2806
01:48:40,950 --> 01:48:39,360
we are and they're going to know if i

2807
01:48:43,109 --> 01:48:40,960
can call for help

2808
01:48:44,390 --> 01:48:43,119
so i didn't have a flare gun i didn't

2809
01:48:45,510 --> 01:48:44,400
have my cell phone you know and then

2810
01:48:46,310 --> 01:48:45,520
they're like dave well you know aside

2811
01:48:47,350 --> 01:48:46,320
from aliens

2812
01:48:49,430 --> 01:48:47,360
there are mountain lions and

2813
01:48:51,350 --> 01:48:49,440
rattlesnakes right right well

2814
01:48:52,709 --> 01:48:51,360
you know y'all you have to go one way or

2815
01:48:54,709 --> 01:48:52,719
another if i have to go on a

2816
01:48:57,030 --> 01:48:54,719
very popular ghost adventures tv show

2817
01:48:58,390 --> 01:48:57,040
being mauled to death by a panther

2818
01:49:00,790 --> 01:48:58,400
i could think of worse ways to have it

2819
01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:00,800
happen so uh i went up there with that

2820
01:49:03,109 --> 01:49:02,800
intention and i got to see cool stuff so

2821
01:49:06,790 --> 01:49:03,119
i'm

2822
01:49:08,950 --> 01:49:06,800
experiencing it

2823
01:49:10,709 --> 01:49:08,960
what is the what's the holy grail in the

2824
01:49:14,629 --> 01:49:10,719
paranormal world

2825
01:49:15,830 --> 01:49:14,639
i think it's uh i i honestly and

2826
01:49:18,229 --> 01:49:15,840
i know it sounds like i'm just tooting

2827
01:49:22,229 --> 01:49:18,239
the horn this this episode coming up

2828
01:49:25,270 --> 01:49:22,239
um at franklin castle to me was

2829
01:49:28,310 --> 01:49:25,280
our our biggest holy grail moment

2830
01:49:28,790 --> 01:49:28,320
with what we capture um audio and video

2831
01:49:32,229 --> 01:49:28,800
wise

2832
01:49:33,510 --> 01:49:32,239
it to me just stands out uh heads and

2833
01:49:36,470 --> 01:49:33,520
shoulders above

2834
01:49:38,550 --> 01:49:36,480
everything else um so far now we catch

2835
01:49:40,470 --> 01:49:38,560
some really cool stuff this season

2836
01:49:42,310 --> 01:49:40,480
and i'm super excited about many of the

2837
01:49:44,229 --> 01:49:42,320
episodes this one like i said i think it

2838
01:49:46,310 --> 01:49:44,239
resonates with me more just because of

2839
01:49:48,629 --> 01:49:46,320
the empathetic nature of this little

2840
01:49:51,270 --> 01:49:48,639
girl who passed away from diabetes

2841
01:49:53,109 --> 01:49:51,280
and my daughter who almost died two

2842
01:49:55,910 --> 01:49:53,119
years ago from the same issue and that

2843
01:49:58,629 --> 01:49:55,920
these two girls were around the same age

2844
01:50:00,310 --> 01:49:58,639
when they pass so that it's very it's

2845
01:50:01,830 --> 01:50:00,320
very touching to me and if i could

2846
01:50:04,950 --> 01:50:01,840
mention for one second jimmy

2847
01:50:07,990 --> 01:50:04,960
because of the diabetes connection folks

2848
01:50:10,070 --> 01:50:08,000
we're close to finding a cure

2849
01:50:12,709 --> 01:50:10,080
or finding better ways to handle it at

2850
01:50:14,629 --> 01:50:12,719
jdrf the juvenile diabetes research fund

2851
01:50:17,589 --> 01:50:14,639
they're the leading

2852
01:50:18,709 --> 01:50:17,599
case for fighting type 1 diabetes and by

2853
01:50:20,709 --> 01:50:18,719
funding research

2854
01:50:22,390 --> 01:50:20,719
advocating for policies that accelerate

2855
01:50:24,149 --> 01:50:22,400
access to new therapies

2856
01:50:25,910 --> 01:50:24,159
and providing a support network for

2857
01:50:28,870 --> 01:50:25,920
millions of people around the world

2858
01:50:30,470 --> 01:50:28,880
impacted by type 1 diabetes this can be

2859
01:50:32,310 --> 01:50:30,480
cured i believe in our lifetime we can

2860
01:50:34,390 --> 01:50:32,320
get this under control and

2861
01:50:35,669 --> 01:50:34,400
save and i we've made leaps and bounds

2862
01:50:37,750 --> 01:50:35,679
in strides in in

2863
01:50:39,350 --> 01:50:37,760
helping people with type 1. i think we

2864
01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:39,360
can crack this nut

2865
01:50:42,870 --> 01:50:41,760
and and help people much better if you

2866
01:50:46,750 --> 01:50:42,880
have in your

2867
01:50:49,750 --> 01:50:46,760
capability jdrf.org

2868
01:50:51,430 --> 01:50:49,760
jdrf.org go make a donation because

2869
01:50:53,030 --> 01:50:51,440
the the life you save may be my

2870
01:50:54,950 --> 01:50:53,040
daughters and

2871
01:50:56,149 --> 01:50:54,960
somebody that you know and love as well

2872
01:50:57,510 --> 01:50:56,159
so if i could just

2873
01:50:59,430 --> 01:50:57,520
put that plea out there and then i'll

2874
01:51:02,390 --> 01:50:59,440
get off my soapbox no that's fine

2875
01:51:03,350 --> 01:51:02,400
and and fader knots go ahead and and pop

2876
01:51:06,270 --> 01:51:03,360
up that link

2877
01:51:07,830 --> 01:51:06,280
in twitter so i can do a retweet

2878
01:51:09,430 --> 01:51:07,840
jdrf.org

2879
01:51:11,510 --> 01:51:09,440
and we'll get it out there for you dave

2880
01:51:15,830 --> 01:51:11,520
thank you so much for that um

2881
01:51:18,790 --> 01:51:15,840
uh i wanted okay your holy grail moment

2882
01:51:19,270 --> 01:51:18,800
that you think is the holy grail moment

2883
01:51:22,470 --> 01:51:19,280
in

2884
01:51:23,510 --> 01:51:22,480
this uh episode on thursday i'm not with

2885
01:51:26,229 --> 01:51:23,520
you

2886
01:51:28,629 --> 01:51:26,239
it's it's it's great there are two other

2887
01:51:32,149 --> 01:51:28,639
moments

2888
01:51:35,589 --> 01:51:32,159
where i was really wtf

2889
01:51:37,990 --> 01:51:35,599
i was right there in that mode um

2890
01:51:39,030 --> 01:51:38,000
this particular episode has got a lot of

2891
01:51:41,350 --> 01:51:39,040
things going on

2892
01:51:42,629 --> 01:51:41,360
it's pretty pretty amazing to see and it

2893
01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:42,639
all happened at

2894
01:51:46,950 --> 01:51:45,440
franklin castle but i wanted to ask you

2895
01:51:50,790 --> 01:51:46,960
about this

2896
01:51:52,709 --> 01:51:50,800
there is a moment and no spoilers

2897
01:51:53,990 --> 01:51:52,719
everybody you can handle it there's a

2898
01:51:57,270 --> 01:51:54,000
moment when

2899
01:51:59,910 --> 01:51:57,280
the hair stands up on your forearm

2900
01:52:00,390 --> 01:51:59,920
and i wanted to ask you about that was

2901
01:52:07,430 --> 01:52:00,400
that

2902
01:52:08,310 --> 01:52:07,440
something in the room like when you you

2903
01:52:11,510 --> 01:52:08,320
know rub a

2904
01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:11,520
a balloon on your head it

2905
01:52:17,109 --> 01:52:13,520
listen we were sitting there trying to

2906
01:52:18,790 --> 01:52:17,119
communicate with this little girl and i

2907
01:52:20,470 --> 01:52:18,800
heard something move behind this chair

2908
01:52:22,950 --> 01:52:20,480
and i sat down because again

2909
01:52:24,870 --> 01:52:22,960
being a tall guy i wanted to get lower

2910
01:52:27,109 --> 01:52:24,880
and seem less intimidating

2911
01:52:27,990 --> 01:52:27,119
and i sat down and i called forth the

2912
01:52:29,669 --> 01:52:28,000
spirit and

2913
01:52:31,030 --> 01:52:29,679
we just sensed something was moving

2914
01:52:32,870 --> 01:52:31,040
towards me and

2915
01:52:34,709 --> 01:52:32,880
it was this i can't explain it other

2916
01:52:35,589 --> 01:52:34,719
than it was just this warm energy and

2917
01:52:38,950 --> 01:52:35,599
you see

2918
01:52:39,669 --> 01:52:38,960
the hair on my arms just lift straight

2919
01:52:41,830 --> 01:52:39,679
up

2920
01:52:42,830 --> 01:52:41,840
not fear there wasn't the goose flesh of

2921
01:52:45,350 --> 01:52:42,840
fear it was like

2922
01:52:46,709 --> 01:52:45,360
static just you know when you go to the

2923
01:52:48,390 --> 01:52:46,719
museum and you put your hand on one of

2924
01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:48,400
those static balls and they're

2925
01:52:51,589 --> 01:52:49,679
running a low voltage and you see

2926
01:52:53,030 --> 01:52:51,599
people's hair stand up on end that's

2927
01:52:56,149 --> 01:52:53,040
what it felt like to me

2928
01:52:58,709 --> 01:52:56,159
there was this tingling and just this

2929
01:53:00,149 --> 01:52:58,719
brush of hair standing up and it was

2930
01:53:02,950 --> 01:53:00,159
really that was cool

2931
01:53:04,229 --> 01:53:02,960
uh for me uh because again it was

2932
01:53:06,149 --> 01:53:04,239
something tangible

2933
01:53:07,589 --> 01:53:06,159
and i wasn't in a state of fear i was in

2934
01:53:09,910 --> 01:53:07,599
a state of awe

2935
01:53:11,430 --> 01:53:09,920
so to me that's it i'm sure scientists

2936
01:53:13,030 --> 01:53:11,440
might have a different take on it but it

2937
01:53:14,149 --> 01:53:13,040
was my personal experience and that's

2938
01:53:17,270 --> 01:53:14,159
all i can

2939
01:53:17,830 --> 01:53:17,280
you know share is is what i saw wait is

2940
01:53:21,109 --> 01:53:17,840
that an

2941
01:53:22,790 --> 01:53:21,119
example of uh pure physics right are we

2942
01:53:23,910 --> 01:53:22,800
getting into the science side of this

2943
01:53:27,189 --> 01:53:23,920
where this is

2944
01:53:28,950 --> 01:53:27,199
uh an electromagnetic you know cloud

2945
01:53:30,950 --> 01:53:28,960
something passing through the room a fit

2946
01:53:31,589 --> 01:53:30,960
you know i'm talking about pure science

2947
01:53:33,350 --> 01:53:31,599
now

2948
01:53:34,470 --> 01:53:33,360
well let me let me throw this out there

2949
01:53:36,390 --> 01:53:34,480
and i don't know if you've ever talked

2950
01:53:38,470 --> 01:53:36,400
to anybody about this aspect i hate

2951
01:53:40,229 --> 01:53:38,480
orbs that's why we don't really cover

2952
01:53:42,310 --> 01:53:40,239
orbs on the holzer files

2953
01:53:43,830 --> 01:53:42,320
i just don't buy into it and i don't

2954
01:53:45,510 --> 01:53:43,840
mean to be disruptive to other people if

2955
01:53:47,109 --> 01:53:45,520
you have that belief fantastic we're all

2956
01:53:49,270 --> 01:53:47,119
allowed to believe what we want

2957
01:53:51,109 --> 01:53:49,280
to me i need something more definitive

2958
01:53:54,229 --> 01:53:51,119
like we get in this episode

2959
01:53:55,189 --> 01:53:54,239
um not an orb orbs are those little

2960
01:53:57,270 --> 01:53:55,199
balls of light

2961
01:53:58,709 --> 01:53:57,280
that are very small to me they're mostly

2962
01:54:00,870 --> 01:53:58,719
moisture dust or

2963
01:54:03,189 --> 01:54:00,880
uh bugs different particulates in the

2964
01:54:06,629 --> 01:54:03,199
air with that set

2965
01:54:09,430 --> 01:54:06,639
with that said i have seen instances

2966
01:54:10,709 --> 01:54:09,440
which we had um you know in a couple of

2967
01:54:11,830 --> 01:54:10,719
different locations i've been where we

2968
01:54:13,990 --> 01:54:11,840
have a static cam

2969
01:54:15,030 --> 01:54:14,000
set up there's no air flow there's

2970
01:54:17,510 --> 01:54:15,040
nothing and all of a sudden you'll see

2971
01:54:19,910 --> 01:54:17,520
this whirling vortex of dust

2972
01:54:21,430 --> 01:54:19,920
start moving around the room now it's

2973
01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:21,440
really easy that's different than just

2974
01:54:25,270 --> 01:54:22,000
one little

2975
01:54:28,310 --> 01:54:25,280
light orb um but if this

2976
01:54:29,990 --> 01:54:28,320
creation if this being is in energetic

2977
01:54:32,149 --> 01:54:30,000
form and is creating a pocket of

2978
01:54:33,589 --> 01:54:32,159
static electricity just think of those

2979
01:54:36,709 --> 01:54:33,599
swiffer dusters

2980
01:54:38,070 --> 01:54:36,719
um

2981
01:54:40,950 --> 01:54:38,080
what they're doing is they're creating a

2982
01:54:43,830 --> 01:54:40,960
static charge that draws the dust to it

2983
01:54:44,870 --> 01:54:43,840
so that when you start seeing motion

2984
01:54:47,990 --> 01:54:44,880
that could be

2985
01:54:49,669 --> 01:54:48,000
the speck of light is not necessarily a

2986
01:54:52,709 --> 01:54:49,679
paranormal entity

2987
01:54:53,910 --> 01:54:52,719
but what it's following the energy that

2988
01:54:56,950 --> 01:54:53,920
it's trailing

2989
01:54:58,950 --> 01:54:56,960
might be drawing that those dust

2990
01:55:01,030 --> 01:54:58,960
particulates and things through the air

2991
01:55:02,470 --> 01:55:01,040
and making them move around the room so

2992
01:55:04,550 --> 01:55:02,480
that i give that element of the

2993
01:55:07,750 --> 01:55:04,560
possibility i don't totally

2994
01:55:10,790 --> 01:55:07,760
you know dismiss all aspects of of uh

2995
01:55:12,390 --> 01:55:10,800
orb uh inner encounters and as a

2996
01:55:13,910 --> 01:55:12,400
paranormal investigator we've all caught

2997
01:55:14,629 --> 01:55:13,920
one or two photographs or pieces of

2998
01:55:16,709 --> 01:55:14,639
video that

2999
01:55:19,109 --> 01:55:16,719
kind of supersede that like last season

3000
01:55:21,990 --> 01:55:19,119
when we were on the uss constellation

3001
01:55:23,270 --> 01:55:22,000
you know we see the shuttering orb move

3002
01:55:24,950 --> 01:55:23,280
through and it's a big one comes

3003
01:55:25,589 --> 01:55:24,960
shuttering through this area and all of

3004
01:55:28,149 --> 01:55:25,599
a sudden

3005
01:55:30,229 --> 01:55:28,159
it passes a hammock and you just see the

3006
01:55:33,589 --> 01:55:30,239
hammock start swinging

3007
01:55:34,709 --> 01:55:33,599
so to me did you see the orb with your

3008
01:55:36,550 --> 01:55:34,719
eyes

3009
01:55:38,070 --> 01:55:36,560
no because we were we had a static

3010
01:55:38,470 --> 01:55:38,080
camera we were in different parts of the

3011
01:55:41,830 --> 01:55:38,480
ship

3012
01:55:43,430 --> 01:55:41,840
okay and while shane was reviewing

3013
01:55:45,510 --> 01:55:43,440
he happened to notice this movement so

3014
01:55:47,189 --> 01:55:45,520
he brought back the video to look

3015
01:55:48,550 --> 01:55:47,199
to see if one of us had come by or

3016
01:55:48,870 --> 01:55:48,560
bumped it or something and he couldn't

3017
01:55:50,870 --> 01:55:48,880
make

3018
01:55:51,990 --> 01:55:50,880
there was no sense for why this did and

3019
01:55:53,270 --> 01:55:52,000
all of a sudden he showed me he goes i

3020
01:55:55,030 --> 01:55:53,280
know you don't like orbs but

3021
01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:55,040
what do you make of this and you see

3022
01:55:58,629 --> 01:55:57,040
this energetic ball of light come in and

3023
01:56:00,229 --> 01:55:58,639
it's it's like shuddering i don't know

3024
01:56:01,109 --> 01:56:00,239
how to explain it it's like in and out

3025
01:56:03,189 --> 01:56:01,119
shuddering

3026
01:56:05,030 --> 01:56:03,199
and it shuffles down that little

3027
01:56:06,950 --> 01:56:05,040
corridor and then as it passes the one

3028
01:56:08,709 --> 01:56:06,960
hammock you see the hammock move

3029
01:56:10,070 --> 01:56:08,719
uh so those were two corresponding

3030
01:56:11,189 --> 01:56:10,080
things that suddenly made it more

3031
01:56:14,870 --> 01:56:11,199
interesting to me

3032
01:56:16,629 --> 01:56:14,880
than just maybe a a light reflection or

3033
01:56:19,030 --> 01:56:16,639
refraction off of something else

3034
01:56:20,070 --> 01:56:19,040
ir light works like any other reflective

3035
01:56:21,669 --> 01:56:20,080
light and

3036
01:56:23,270 --> 01:56:21,679
you might not see it with the naked eye

3037
01:56:25,030 --> 01:56:23,280
but you'll see it through the

3038
01:56:28,310 --> 01:56:25,040
examination of the camera lens

3039
01:56:31,350 --> 01:56:28,320
have you seen uh an orb

3040
01:56:33,030 --> 01:56:31,360
uh with the naked eye yes

3041
01:56:34,870 --> 01:56:33,040
and and tell me about that because i

3042
01:56:36,629 --> 01:56:34,880
have once and i know everybody's going

3043
01:56:38,550 --> 01:56:36,639
okay great jimmy's going to tell us the

3044
01:56:40,550 --> 01:56:38,560
orb story i'm not going to do that but

3045
01:56:43,270 --> 01:56:40,560
what did you see

3046
01:56:44,550 --> 01:56:43,280
well i was in the queen mary and i was

3047
01:56:46,629 --> 01:56:44,560
in the whole of the ship with grant

3048
01:56:48,470 --> 01:56:46,639
wilson from ghost hunters

3049
01:56:50,390 --> 01:56:48,480
and i saw two things first we heard a

3050
01:56:51,830 --> 01:56:50,400
loud bang and it drew our attention we

3051
01:56:55,109 --> 01:56:51,840
saw this

3052
01:56:56,310 --> 01:56:55,119
light ball move across the hall

3053
01:56:57,990 --> 01:56:56,320
and the two of us look to each other

3054
01:57:00,070 --> 01:56:58,000
there's no there's no light source down

3055
01:57:03,109 --> 01:57:00,080
here that could create that

3056
01:57:05,830 --> 01:57:03,119
and then when we looked up it was

3057
01:57:07,030 --> 01:57:05,840
this thing sparkled like tinkerbell at

3058
01:57:08,709 --> 01:57:07,040
the beginning of wonderful world of

3059
01:57:11,750 --> 01:57:08,719
disney on sunday nights when she'd

3060
01:57:13,750 --> 01:57:11,760
wrap her little uh wand and you'd see

3061
01:57:15,669 --> 01:57:13,760
the sparkles of stardust we saw this

3062
01:57:17,189 --> 01:57:15,679
happen in front of her eyes and i've

3063
01:57:18,229 --> 01:57:17,199
seen that on a few occasions at

3064
01:57:21,270 --> 01:57:18,239
different locations

3065
01:57:23,910 --> 01:57:21,280
at the uh um the

3066
01:57:24,870 --> 01:57:23,920
in liberty missouri at the belvoir

3067
01:57:26,870 --> 01:57:24,880
winery

3068
01:57:28,229 --> 01:57:26,880
down in the morgue area i've seen it in

3069
01:57:29,669 --> 01:57:28,239
a few different locations throughout the

3070
01:57:31,189 --> 01:57:29,679
united states and at eastern state

3071
01:57:33,109 --> 01:57:31,199
penitentiary

3072
01:57:35,430 --> 01:57:33,119
an orb of light moving down the hall and

3073
01:57:37,109 --> 01:57:35,440
and kind of almost spark coming off of

3074
01:57:38,390 --> 01:57:37,119
it so

3075
01:57:40,229 --> 01:57:38,400
that to me is something i'm seeing with

3076
01:57:42,070 --> 01:57:40,239
the eye as opposed to a camera

3077
01:57:43,750 --> 01:57:42,080
that's noticing this little particulate

3078
01:57:46,470 --> 01:57:43,760
moving around that's not as

3079
01:57:47,189 --> 01:57:46,480
as exciting but i'd love to hear your

3080
01:57:49,830 --> 01:57:47,199
your story

3081
01:57:51,589 --> 01:57:49,840
now mine mine's a simple one in that we

3082
01:57:53,430 --> 01:57:51,599
were out in this open field and there

3083
01:57:54,070 --> 01:57:53,440
was about 50 of us we're doing night

3084
01:57:56,390 --> 01:57:54,080
watches

3085
01:57:58,629 --> 01:57:56,400
right we're night vision and we're

3086
01:58:00,870 --> 01:57:58,639
looking for a ufo activity

3087
01:58:03,750 --> 01:58:00,880
and i took a break and then across this

3088
01:58:07,350 --> 01:58:03,760
field i'm going to say

3089
01:58:10,229 --> 01:58:07,360
200 yards away there's a line of trees

3090
01:58:11,030 --> 01:58:10,239
um at the back half it's just grass open

3091
01:58:13,750 --> 01:58:11,040
grass

3092
01:58:14,950 --> 01:58:13,760
but from behind the line of trees about

3093
01:58:18,070 --> 01:58:14,960
11 o'clock at night

3094
01:58:20,950 --> 01:58:18,080
it's dark i see this

3095
01:58:21,510 --> 01:58:20,960
gray thing come out from behind the

3096
01:58:23,910 --> 01:58:21,520
trees

3097
01:58:25,430 --> 01:58:23,920
float up it's tiny but i see it and i'm

3098
01:58:28,470 --> 01:58:25,440
watching it and then it comes

3099
01:58:32,310 --> 01:58:28,480
down in front of the trees

3100
01:58:34,070 --> 01:58:32,320
and then kind of expands up to about

3101
01:58:35,910 --> 01:58:34,080
it was 200 yards away so i'm going to

3102
01:58:39,750 --> 01:58:35,920
say this thing was like 30 feet

3103
01:58:42,310 --> 01:58:39,760
tall but it was 2d and it was gray

3104
01:58:43,430 --> 01:58:42,320
it wasn't a sphere it was flat like

3105
01:58:46,390 --> 01:58:43,440
imagine a giant

3106
01:58:48,950 --> 01:58:46,400
quarter right okay and it's there and

3107
01:58:51,589 --> 01:58:48,960
i'm sitting in this chair watching it

3108
01:58:52,629 --> 01:58:51,599
and i rub my eyes thinking i've got a

3109
01:58:55,270 --> 01:58:52,639
floaty

3110
01:58:56,149 --> 01:58:55,280
and at that moment dave on all that is

3111
01:58:59,189 --> 01:58:56,159
holy

3112
01:59:00,310 --> 01:58:59,199
this lady from in back of me um she

3113
01:59:01,750 --> 01:59:00,320
doesn't know what i'm doing

3114
01:59:04,709 --> 01:59:01,760
it's in the dark or all in the dark she

3115
01:59:09,270 --> 01:59:04,719
goes is anybody watching that great orb

3116
01:59:14,149 --> 01:59:12,310
i turned to her and i said you mean this

3117
01:59:16,550 --> 01:59:14,159
bleep is real

3118
01:59:17,270 --> 01:59:16,560
right i'm kind of tripping and i i turn

3119
01:59:20,550 --> 01:59:17,280
around and i'm

3120
01:59:23,109 --> 01:59:20,560
watching it and then i hear everybody

3121
01:59:24,550 --> 01:59:23,119
to my left you know 50 75 people all

3122
01:59:26,550 --> 01:59:24,560
doing the same thing wow check it out

3123
01:59:29,750 --> 01:59:26,560
check it out wow that's crazy yes

3124
01:59:30,950 --> 01:59:29,760
and uh and then it phased out it was

3125
01:59:34,070 --> 01:59:30,960
gone

3126
01:59:36,950 --> 01:59:34,080
it lasted about 10 seconds

3127
01:59:38,470 --> 01:59:36,960
maybe so the next day i jump on this

3128
01:59:40,629 --> 01:59:38,480
motorcycle

3129
01:59:41,510 --> 01:59:40,639
and and i ride all the way to the back

3130
01:59:44,550 --> 01:59:41,520
of this property

3131
01:59:45,350 --> 01:59:44,560
and i'm looking for props right i'm

3132
01:59:48,390 --> 01:59:45,360
looking for

3133
01:59:49,830 --> 01:59:48,400
you know some cables electricity a

3134
01:59:52,229 --> 01:59:49,840
projector maybe

3135
01:59:53,430 --> 01:59:52,239
a thin sheet of plastic in the tree you

3136
01:59:55,669 --> 01:59:53,440
know something

3137
01:59:57,589 --> 01:59:55,679
and there were it and it was just too

3138
01:59:58,390 --> 01:59:57,599
remote and the more that i got back

3139
02:00:02,470 --> 01:59:58,400
there

3140
02:00:04,950 --> 02:00:02,480
trying to you know attract attention

3141
02:00:06,070 --> 02:00:04,960
but i was looking for i was looking for

3142
02:00:07,910 --> 02:00:06,080
props

3143
02:00:09,510 --> 02:00:07,920
i was and there was nothing back there

3144
02:00:11,510 --> 02:00:09,520
and and that

3145
02:00:13,990 --> 02:00:11,520
that that tripped me out and the trees

3146
02:00:15,270 --> 02:00:14,000
were further back than i had thought

3147
02:00:17,030 --> 02:00:15,280
when i went to the back half of the

3148
02:00:18,550 --> 02:00:17,040
property where the fence was the trees

3149
02:00:21,430 --> 02:00:18,560
were another

3150
02:00:24,149 --> 02:00:21,440
30 yards beyond that i thought that the

3151
02:00:26,310 --> 02:00:24,159
trees were right on the fence line

3152
02:00:28,310 --> 02:00:26,320
i hope i'm explaining myself right so i

3153
02:00:29,510 --> 02:00:28,320
got you yeah i couldn't debunk it and we

3154
02:00:31,350 --> 02:00:29,520
all saw it

3155
02:00:33,669 --> 02:00:31,360
it was pretty weird that's the only

3156
02:00:35,030 --> 02:00:33,679
that's the only orb i've seen in my life

3157
02:00:36,790 --> 02:00:35,040
all right let's we got to take a break

3158
02:00:39,189 --> 02:00:36,800
right here dave let's get this in

3159
02:00:41,669 --> 02:00:39,199
it's fade to black tonight that's right

3160
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darkness dave dave schrader is with us

3161
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3236
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3237
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3277
02:06:11,830 --> 02:06:09,990
welcome back paid to black i'm here with

3278
02:06:13,350 --> 02:06:11,840
jimmy church tonight dave schrader is

3279
02:06:14,550 --> 02:06:13,360
here i want to remind everybody tomorrow

3280
02:06:16,950 --> 02:06:14,560
night rick delano

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and then wednesday night stephen bassett

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joins us

3284
02:06:22,470 --> 02:06:21,760
uh tonight it's uh it's dave schroeder

3285
02:06:28,950 --> 02:06:22,480
and

3286
02:06:34,069 --> 02:06:28,960
i had on uh oh

3287
02:06:37,510 --> 02:06:36,310
i don't remember okay let me start there

3288
02:06:39,669 --> 02:06:37,520
i don't remember but

3289
02:06:40,550 --> 02:06:39,679
i i got a phone call we are we're doing

3290
02:06:41,990 --> 02:06:40,560
open lines

3291
02:06:44,950 --> 02:06:42,000
get a phone call from one of the fader

3292
02:06:47,109 --> 02:06:44,960
knots her name is deb and deb says

3293
02:06:47,990 --> 02:06:47,119
the next time you guys have on dave

3294
02:06:49,589 --> 02:06:48,000
schrader

3295
02:06:51,430 --> 02:06:49,599
obviously they didn't know about you and

3296
02:06:53,750 --> 02:06:51,440
i talking you know later on

3297
02:06:54,550 --> 02:06:53,760
the week but next time you have dave

3298
02:06:57,589 --> 02:06:54,560
schroeder on

3299
02:06:58,310 --> 02:06:57,599
you've got to ask dave about door number

3300
02:07:01,830 --> 02:06:58,320
one two

3301
02:07:04,229 --> 02:07:01,840
three or four and i was like okay

3302
02:07:05,350 --> 02:07:04,239
um dave do you know what deb is talking

3303
02:07:06,870 --> 02:07:05,360
about

3304
02:07:09,589 --> 02:07:06,880
uh you know once in a while i throw a

3305
02:07:12,950 --> 02:07:09,599
question out uh to people and i you know

3306
02:07:14,390 --> 02:07:12,960
if you had these doors before you and

3307
02:07:15,830 --> 02:07:14,400
jimmy if you and i i'm trying to

3308
02:07:16,950 --> 02:07:15,840
remember what each one had behind it but

3309
02:07:19,910 --> 02:07:16,960
it was like

3310
02:07:20,709 --> 02:07:19,920
you could only open one door and you

3311
02:07:23,830 --> 02:07:20,719
would be given

3312
02:07:25,750 --> 02:07:23,840
proof of existence or non-existence

3313
02:07:29,910 --> 02:07:25,760
beyond a shadow of a doubt of

3314
02:07:33,189 --> 02:07:29,920
aliens bigfoot

3315
02:07:36,950 --> 02:07:33,199
life after death or god

3316
02:07:40,709 --> 02:07:36,960
which door would you open and why okay

3317
02:07:44,470 --> 02:07:40,719
um uh

3318
02:07:46,629 --> 02:07:44,480
i'm going door number one okay

3319
02:07:48,310 --> 02:07:46,639
and why what would make you want to

3320
02:07:49,669 --> 02:07:48,320
choose that door specifically

3321
02:07:51,669 --> 02:07:49,679
because knowing you may not be able to

3322
02:07:52,149 --> 02:07:51,679
prove to anybody that it exists but you

3323
02:07:54,229 --> 02:07:52,159
know

3324
02:07:55,830 --> 02:07:54,239
right a shadow of a doubt this is it

3325
02:07:58,069 --> 02:07:55,840
that's the because i would get the

3326
02:08:00,790 --> 02:07:58,079
answers for doors number two three or

3327
02:08:03,350 --> 02:08:00,800
four from door number one

3328
02:08:04,550 --> 02:08:03,360
okay i like that yeah yeah and that's i

3329
02:08:05,750 --> 02:08:04,560
just i like the challenge what's it

3330
02:08:06,629 --> 02:08:05,760
while people what are what are your

3331
02:08:08,550 --> 02:08:06,639
takes on it and i'll tell you what

3332
02:08:10,470 --> 02:08:08,560
sometimes mines shift from one

3333
02:08:12,149 --> 02:08:10,480
to another of what i and it just kind of

3334
02:08:14,310 --> 02:08:12,159
depends on my mood that month and what

3335
02:08:15,910 --> 02:08:14,320
i'm focused on but uh

3336
02:08:17,669 --> 02:08:15,920
yeah it's it's always so i challenge

3337
02:08:22,709 --> 02:08:17,679
your listeners think about that

3338
02:08:26,069 --> 02:08:22,719
okay okay and what door do you pick

3339
02:08:26,870 --> 02:08:26,079
you know here's here's the the scary

3340
02:08:29,270 --> 02:08:26,880
thing because

3341
02:08:30,950 --> 02:08:29,280
you know a part of me i really want

3342
02:08:34,629 --> 02:08:30,960
proof of the afterlife

3343
02:08:38,709 --> 02:08:36,390
if there's something but that to me is

3344
02:08:40,550 --> 02:08:38,719
terrifying because if i open that door

3345
02:08:43,589 --> 02:08:40,560
and it's just a black void

3346
02:08:44,550 --> 02:08:43,599
right you're screwed right which really

3347
02:08:46,790 --> 02:08:44,560
if you open

3348
02:08:47,990 --> 02:08:46,800
you know that door and it tells you that

3349
02:08:50,870 --> 02:08:48,000
that kind of answers

3350
02:08:52,950 --> 02:08:50,880
the god question it does yeah right so

3351
02:08:56,709 --> 02:08:52,960
that kind of gives you the overall

3352
02:08:57,510 --> 02:08:56,719
holy beep moment you know um i've i've

3353
02:09:01,030 --> 02:08:57,520
seen

3354
02:09:02,790 --> 02:09:01,040
alien craft i don't

3355
02:09:04,790 --> 02:09:02,800
doubt that we've been in contact with

3356
02:09:05,350 --> 02:09:04,800
aliens and that aliens haven't had a

3357
02:09:09,350 --> 02:09:05,360
hand

3358
02:09:10,790 --> 02:09:09,360
in our world uh as crazy as that might

3359
02:09:12,390 --> 02:09:10,800
sound to some people but that's that's

3360
02:09:16,229 --> 02:09:12,400
just where i come down

3361
02:09:17,830 --> 02:09:16,239
um so like i said it vacillates uh

3362
02:09:19,830 --> 02:09:17,840
you know i would i would maybe like to

3363
02:09:21,830 --> 02:09:19,840
understand

3364
02:09:23,109 --> 02:09:21,840
what these things are than that we're

3365
02:09:25,830 --> 02:09:23,119
experiencing around us

3366
02:09:27,430 --> 02:09:25,840
if there is no afterlife you know if if

3367
02:09:29,109 --> 02:09:27,440
what are these ghosts is it something

3368
02:09:32,069 --> 02:09:29,119
that we're projecting

3369
02:09:33,189 --> 02:09:32,079
are we nothing more than just the slide

3370
02:09:35,270 --> 02:09:33,199
projector that

3371
02:09:36,310 --> 02:09:35,280
taps into the energy that was once in

3372
02:09:38,790 --> 02:09:36,320
this location

3373
02:09:39,589 --> 02:09:38,800
and we're able to see those slides

3374
02:09:41,510 --> 02:09:39,599
because

3375
02:09:42,790 --> 02:09:41,520
we're resonating at that same level or

3376
02:09:44,629 --> 02:09:42,800
because so many people have gone there

3377
02:09:47,589 --> 02:09:44,639
and fed the energy that

3378
02:09:48,629 --> 02:09:47,599
it's accessible like an internet cafe to

3379
02:09:51,669 --> 02:09:48,639
everybody

3380
02:09:55,109 --> 02:09:51,679
you're a spiritual guy right

3381
02:09:58,950 --> 02:09:55,119
you've got uh you've got 95 kids

3382
02:10:02,550 --> 02:09:58,960
by the way by the way uh dave can i say

3383
02:10:05,830 --> 02:10:02,560
what's happening with number five uh yes

3384
02:10:07,270 --> 02:10:05,840
dave is expecting did it happen

3385
02:10:08,870 --> 02:10:07,280
not yet but not just oh they keep

3386
02:10:10,870 --> 02:10:08,880
teasing me with it but uh

3387
02:10:13,589 --> 02:10:10,880
grand baby number five is due any day

3388
02:10:15,510 --> 02:10:13,599
now grand baby number five

3389
02:10:16,950 --> 02:10:15,520
yeah how'd it get to be that old man

3390
02:10:18,629 --> 02:10:16,960
that's gotta make you feel pretty

3391
02:10:19,910 --> 02:10:18,639
special that's pretty cool

3392
02:10:22,470 --> 02:10:19,920
well i've got you know between my wife

3393
02:10:24,470 --> 02:10:22,480
and i we have 11 children oh man

3394
02:10:26,709 --> 02:10:24,480
so i'm gonna be i'll never be able to

3395
02:10:27,109 --> 02:10:26,719
retire uh because i'll have too many

3396
02:10:28,870 --> 02:10:27,119
damn

3397
02:10:30,470 --> 02:10:28,880
christmas gifts for grandbabies and

3398
02:10:31,910 --> 02:10:30,480
great grandbabies um

3399
02:10:33,589 --> 02:10:31,920
but that you know that gives me a good

3400
02:10:35,750 --> 02:10:33,599
challenge to outlive

3401
02:10:36,790 --> 02:10:35,760
and outlast everyone else so i'll be

3402
02:10:38,390 --> 02:10:36,800
doing what i can

3403
02:10:39,910 --> 02:10:38,400
uh hopefully i'll have all of my mind to

3404
02:10:42,470 --> 02:10:39,920
enjoy it with so

3405
02:10:44,149 --> 02:10:42,480
uh yeah hoping for you better hope for

3406
02:10:46,950 --> 02:10:44,159
ten season of the holzer files

3407
02:10:47,910 --> 02:10:46,960
okay so yeah yeah let me okay but but

3408
02:10:51,109 --> 02:10:47,920
but but

3409
02:10:54,229 --> 02:10:51,119
you're a spiritual uh man

3410
02:10:56,229 --> 02:10:54,239
what about door number four

3411
02:10:58,790 --> 02:10:56,239
you know here's here's kind of what i've

3412
02:11:01,030 --> 02:10:58,800
come to realize

3413
02:11:01,910 --> 02:11:01,040
there is an energy there is something

3414
02:11:05,030 --> 02:11:01,920
out there

3415
02:11:06,470 --> 02:11:05,040
that listens i only say that because

3416
02:11:07,510 --> 02:11:06,480
we've been doing prayer and healing

3417
02:11:10,229 --> 02:11:07,520
requests

3418
02:11:10,709 --> 02:11:10,239
for our radio show for years and yeah

3419
02:11:12,870 --> 02:11:10,719
here's some

3420
02:11:13,750 --> 02:11:12,880
an interesting aspect to me in the last

3421
02:11:15,430 --> 02:11:13,760
month

3422
02:11:17,510 --> 02:11:15,440
i'm i'm averaging like two to three a

3423
02:11:18,069 --> 02:11:17,520
day on my facebook which i've never done

3424
02:11:19,669 --> 02:11:18,079
before

3425
02:11:21,270 --> 02:11:19,679
i've never had that many people reaching

3426
02:11:21,990 --> 02:11:21,280
out it's you know sporadically here and

3427
02:11:23,669 --> 02:11:22,000
there

3428
02:11:25,510 --> 02:11:23,679
it's like two to three a day people

3429
02:11:27,189 --> 02:11:25,520
asking me to place prayer and healing

3430
02:11:28,149 --> 02:11:27,199
requests and i've seen miracles you know

3431
02:11:32,470 --> 02:11:28,159
when my

3432
02:11:35,750 --> 02:11:32,480
youngest was born um 11 years ago

3433
02:11:38,149 --> 02:11:35,760
he was almost two months premature

3434
02:11:39,189 --> 02:11:38,159
um he wasn't his lungs hadn't fully

3435
02:11:41,030 --> 02:11:39,199
developed he wasn't

3436
02:11:42,709 --> 02:11:41,040
in a good place uh his mom had

3437
02:11:44,310 --> 02:11:42,719
preeclampsia and

3438
02:11:46,790 --> 02:11:44,320
they said we need to remove this baby

3439
02:11:51,030 --> 02:11:46,800
now or we're going to lose them both

3440
02:11:52,950 --> 02:11:51,040
and um i had to make a tough call

3441
02:11:53,430 --> 02:11:52,960
because she was kind of doped up at the

3442
02:11:56,550 --> 02:11:53,440
time

3443
02:11:57,990 --> 02:11:56,560
and do i you know do i lose her and the

3444
02:12:00,950 --> 02:11:58,000
baby survives do i

3445
02:12:02,870 --> 02:12:00,960
choose the baby and she may die and it

3446
02:12:04,310 --> 02:12:02,880
was one of those moments and i put out

3447
02:12:05,589 --> 02:12:04,320
literally in the hospital put out a

3448
02:12:06,709 --> 02:12:05,599
prayer and healing request to our

3449
02:12:09,510 --> 02:12:06,719
listeners

3450
02:12:11,189 --> 02:12:09,520
and i got thousands of responses and

3451
02:12:11,669 --> 02:12:11,199
emails and messages from around the

3452
02:12:14,470 --> 02:12:11,679
world

3453
02:12:15,430 --> 02:12:14,480
and they told us this they both survived

3454
02:12:17,270 --> 02:12:15,440
it

3455
02:12:18,950 --> 02:12:17,280
they said your son's in for a long haul

3456
02:12:20,310 --> 02:12:18,960
he's almost you know two to three months

3457
02:12:22,229 --> 02:12:20,320
premature so he's going to be in the

3458
02:12:22,950 --> 02:12:22,239
hospital probably six months because

3459
02:12:25,830 --> 02:12:22,960
it's got to be

3460
02:12:26,790 --> 02:12:25,840
till he's you know to his due date and

3461
02:12:28,390 --> 02:12:26,800
then usually three

3462
02:12:30,629 --> 02:12:28,400
three months after that he has to be

3463
02:12:33,189 --> 02:12:30,639
able to hold his own with eating

3464
02:12:35,109 --> 02:12:33,199
swallowing and maintaining his own heat

3465
02:12:37,669 --> 02:12:35,119
we were home in two weeks

3466
02:12:38,470 --> 02:12:37,679
two weeks wow not two weeks after his

3467
02:12:41,510 --> 02:12:38,480
due date

3468
02:12:42,790 --> 02:12:41,520
two weeks that's how strong this kid was

3469
02:12:44,149 --> 02:12:42,800
and i believe it's because so many

3470
02:12:45,589 --> 02:12:44,159
people put forth good power and

3471
02:12:47,750 --> 02:12:45,599
intention and love

3472
02:12:49,030 --> 02:12:47,760
now with that said we put forth you know

3473
02:12:50,870 --> 02:12:49,040
prayer and healing requests and they

3474
02:12:53,270 --> 02:12:50,880
don't always go that way i wanted my mom

3475
02:12:55,430 --> 02:12:53,280
to survive the cancer and she didn't

3476
02:12:57,510 --> 02:12:55,440
and i can't answer as to why god answers

3477
02:12:58,870 --> 02:12:57,520
some and not other prayers but

3478
02:13:00,709 --> 02:12:58,880
it doesn't mean i'm going to stop doing

3479
02:13:01,350 --> 02:13:00,719
it because i don't know that i believe

3480
02:13:03,750 --> 02:13:01,360
in the whole

3481
02:13:05,350 --> 02:13:03,760
grand cosmic scheme of things but you

3482
02:13:06,950 --> 02:13:05,360
know um

3483
02:13:09,589 --> 02:13:06,960
my buddy tim put me on the straight and

3484
02:13:11,990 --> 02:13:09,599
arrow my co-host on darkness radio when

3485
02:13:13,750 --> 02:13:12,000
my mom died i was angry i was angry at

3486
02:13:17,189 --> 02:13:13,760
god i was angry at the world

3487
02:13:19,189 --> 02:13:17,199
and you know my mom it was a servant to

3488
02:13:22,470 --> 02:13:19,199
the people she was a nurse

3489
02:13:24,950 --> 02:13:22,480
for all of her adult life she worked

3490
02:13:25,510 --> 02:13:24,960
tirelessly to be there for the kids that

3491
02:13:27,189 --> 02:13:25,520
she

3492
02:13:28,629 --> 02:13:27,199
worked for at shriner's children's

3493
02:13:31,270 --> 02:13:28,639
hospital uh

3494
02:13:32,390 --> 02:13:31,280
and and neonatal intensive care units

3495
02:13:35,910 --> 02:13:32,400
she was

3496
02:13:37,030 --> 02:13:35,920
best friend and why would you take this

3497
02:13:39,510 --> 02:13:37,040
woman she was finally

3498
02:13:40,870 --> 02:13:39,520
70 was retiring was going to travel the

3499
02:13:42,069 --> 02:13:40,880
world with my dad

3500
02:13:44,229 --> 02:13:42,079
and they were going to have this and i

3501
02:13:45,270 --> 02:13:44,239
was so livid and tim screwed my head

3502
02:13:47,270 --> 02:13:45,280
back on

3503
02:13:49,270 --> 02:13:47,280
and said you know what your mom met the

3504
02:13:51,350 --> 02:13:49,280
love of her life and they did travel

3505
02:13:52,629 --> 02:13:51,360
and they got to see the world together

3506
02:13:55,189 --> 02:13:52,639
and your mom got to

3507
02:13:56,790 --> 02:13:55,199
work the job she loved to do and serve

3508
02:13:58,950 --> 02:13:56,800
these kids to her last

3509
02:14:00,310 --> 02:13:58,960
breath and she got to see her

3510
02:14:02,550 --> 02:14:00,320
grandchildren and

3511
02:14:03,510 --> 02:14:02,560
see her son succeed and do things that

3512
02:14:05,189 --> 02:14:03,520
he loves

3513
02:14:06,629 --> 02:14:05,199
and you know he kind of put that

3514
02:14:07,750 --> 02:14:06,639
perspective back on me that when you

3515
02:14:10,069 --> 02:14:07,760
look at it through those

3516
02:14:11,430 --> 02:14:10,079
lenses all of a sudden you know my mom

3517
02:14:13,189 --> 02:14:11,440
got a really rich

3518
02:14:15,270 --> 02:14:13,199
long life not as long as we'd all like

3519
02:14:16,629 --> 02:14:15,280
it but knowing i should have lost her

3520
02:14:18,229 --> 02:14:16,639
three years ago when

3521
02:14:19,990 --> 02:14:18,239
the cancer first reared its ugly head

3522
02:14:22,149 --> 02:14:20,000
and she never told me about it

3523
02:14:23,830 --> 02:14:22,159
um we had three extra years with her and

3524
02:14:26,149 --> 02:14:23,840
it was they were great

3525
02:14:28,149 --> 02:14:26,159
you know so it's all in the way that you

3526
02:14:28,790 --> 02:14:28,159
look at these aspects you know some call

3527
02:14:30,709 --> 02:14:28,800
it god

3528
02:14:32,629 --> 02:14:30,719
some call it universe some call it

3529
02:14:33,109 --> 02:14:32,639
mother earth or energy i don't care what

3530
02:14:35,430 --> 02:14:33,119
it is

3531
02:14:37,109 --> 02:14:35,440
i believe that that there is a power

3532
02:14:37,830 --> 02:14:37,119
that is greater than us and i believe

3533
02:14:39,750 --> 02:14:37,840
that it is

3534
02:14:41,589 --> 02:14:39,760
strongest when we come together with a

3535
02:14:43,030 --> 02:14:41,599
common goal and i hope

3536
02:14:45,510 --> 02:14:43,040
your listeners around the world will

3537
02:14:46,790 --> 02:14:45,520
take that into you know thought when

3538
02:14:48,709 --> 02:14:46,800
we're looking at all the anger and

3539
02:14:50,790 --> 02:14:48,719
hatred and derision

3540
02:14:51,750 --> 02:14:50,800
in our in our world right now and if we

3541
02:14:53,910 --> 02:14:51,760
come together

3542
02:14:55,189 --> 02:14:53,920
we don't have to like everything about

3543
02:14:58,149 --> 02:14:55,199
the world and

3544
02:14:59,589 --> 02:14:58,159
the leaders and what's going on but if

3545
02:15:02,950 --> 02:14:59,599
we can just come together

3546
02:15:04,149 --> 02:15:02,960
more often and put forth positive things

3547
02:15:05,910 --> 02:15:04,159
together

3548
02:15:07,669 --> 02:15:05,920
as hippy-dippy as that sounds i think

3549
02:15:09,109 --> 02:15:07,679
we'll start to see major changes and

3550
02:15:10,950 --> 02:15:09,119
what's the old saying if you

3551
02:15:12,470 --> 02:15:10,960
if you start to change the way you look

3552
02:15:13,990 --> 02:15:12,480
at things the things that you look at

3553
02:15:17,350 --> 02:15:14,000
will begin to change

3554
02:15:17,910 --> 02:15:17,360
and i do that so you leave door number

3555
02:15:21,109 --> 02:15:17,920
four

3556
02:15:24,069 --> 02:15:21,119
closed yeah

3557
02:15:25,910 --> 02:15:24,079
yeah there was i watched uh that was a

3558
02:15:28,310 --> 02:15:25,920
long answer for that one but yeah sorry

3559
02:15:29,109 --> 02:15:28,320
no but but you have to answer it that

3560
02:15:32,950 --> 02:15:29,119
way

3561
02:15:35,990 --> 02:15:32,960
um the other night rita and i uh

3562
02:15:39,510 --> 02:15:36,000
watched the movie contact for the 100th

3563
02:15:41,830 --> 02:15:39,520
time right but there is a moment

3564
02:15:42,790 --> 02:15:41,840
in the film because the film is has a

3565
02:15:45,589 --> 02:15:42,800
heavy dose of

3566
02:15:48,149 --> 02:15:45,599
spirituality you know with with matthew

3567
02:15:51,910 --> 02:15:48,159
mcconaughey playing the preacher man

3568
02:15:54,470 --> 02:15:51,920
and um when you have

3569
02:15:56,310 --> 02:15:54,480
this push and pull between science and

3570
02:15:59,270 --> 02:15:56,320
spirituality right

3571
02:15:59,750 --> 02:15:59,280
but there's this moment when jody foster

3572
02:16:07,430 --> 02:15:59,760
uh

3573
02:16:08,229 --> 02:16:07,440
for her job application right if she's

3574
02:16:11,270 --> 02:16:08,239
gonna be

3575
02:16:13,109 --> 02:16:11,280
the traveler and matthew mcconaughey

3576
02:16:14,790 --> 02:16:13,119
at the end of that says you know uh i'm

3577
02:16:16,709 --> 02:16:14,800
paraphrasing here but

3578
02:16:19,189 --> 02:16:16,719
uh do you consider yourself a spiritual

3579
02:16:22,709 --> 02:16:19,199
person do you believe in god

3580
02:16:26,870 --> 02:16:22,719
well um it's it's at that moment

3581
02:16:29,669 --> 02:16:26,880
where you you could tell

3582
02:16:31,430 --> 02:16:29,679
that she didn't believe in god but

3583
02:16:34,230 --> 02:16:31,440
everybody else in the room

3584
02:16:36,469 --> 02:16:34,240
did now this is done by intention by

3585
02:16:37,910 --> 02:16:36,479
carl sagan and of course the director of

3586
02:16:41,429 --> 02:16:37,920
the film but

3587
02:16:43,830 --> 02:16:41,439
um the uh one of the other panelists

3588
02:16:47,349 --> 02:16:43,840
that is interviewing her says

3589
02:16:50,469 --> 02:16:47,359
95 of the people on this planet

3590
02:16:53,270 --> 02:16:50,479
believe in god or a god right

3591
02:16:55,429 --> 02:16:53,280
and it is very important that you

3592
02:16:57,509 --> 02:16:55,439
represent the human race

3593
02:16:58,549 --> 02:16:57,519
and you represent everybody on this

3594
02:17:00,870 --> 02:16:58,559
planet

3595
02:17:01,830 --> 02:17:00,880
and that's that's a weird position for

3596
02:17:05,990 --> 02:17:01,840
most people

3597
02:17:09,190 --> 02:17:06,000
to go up to door number four right

3598
02:17:12,309 --> 02:17:09,200
what do you do because most people

3599
02:17:14,150 --> 02:17:12,319
uh believe in what's behind that door

3600
02:17:18,709 --> 02:17:14,160
but they don't want to have their

3601
02:17:21,750 --> 02:17:18,719
faith changed right

3602
02:17:26,870 --> 02:17:25,270
i'm a i'm a fan of believing and i think

3603
02:17:29,509 --> 02:17:26,880
that we

3604
02:17:31,830 --> 02:17:29,519
you know we use religion we use

3605
02:17:34,150 --> 02:17:31,840
different things as a crutch

3606
02:17:35,509 --> 02:17:34,160
i think that humanity is capable of

3607
02:17:38,150 --> 02:17:35,519
remarkable things

3608
02:17:39,830 --> 02:17:38,160
together i think we're capable of doing

3609
02:17:41,349 --> 02:17:39,840
things that were mentioned in the bible

3610
02:17:41,990 --> 02:17:41,359
i think we're capable of healing i think

3611
02:17:45,349 --> 02:17:42,000
we're capable

3612
02:17:47,990 --> 02:17:45,359
of um transmogrifying i think

3613
02:17:48,790 --> 02:17:48,000
we're capable of of kind of the jedi

3614
02:17:51,910 --> 02:17:48,800
death

3615
02:17:53,270 --> 02:17:51,920
uh you know that uh obi-wan kenobi and

3616
02:17:56,389 --> 02:17:53,280
luke skywalker

3617
02:17:58,309 --> 02:17:56,399
the spoilers uh you know attained that

3618
02:18:00,309 --> 02:17:58,319
they just became one with the energy as

3619
02:18:02,150 --> 02:18:00,319
opposed to a physical death

3620
02:18:03,750 --> 02:18:02,160
i think this is all possible i think

3621
02:18:05,429 --> 02:18:03,760
that there's there are ways to commune

3622
02:18:07,349 --> 02:18:05,439
with these aspects but you have to be

3623
02:18:09,190 --> 02:18:07,359
willing to

3624
02:18:10,790 --> 02:18:09,200
go beyond your comfort zones and and

3625
02:18:12,790 --> 02:18:10,800
people don't like to do that listen i've

3626
02:18:14,150 --> 02:18:12,800
challenged my paradigm my entire life

3627
02:18:16,870 --> 02:18:14,160
i've got to meet

3628
02:18:18,870 --> 02:18:16,880
celebrities that i've loved uh i've put

3629
02:18:20,709 --> 02:18:18,880
you know put out things to the universe

3630
02:18:22,709 --> 02:18:20,719
it was funny i i'm a huge springsteen

3631
02:18:24,950 --> 02:18:22,719
fan his music saved my life as a

3632
02:18:28,870 --> 02:18:24,960
teenager when i tried to commit suicide

3633
02:18:29,910 --> 02:18:28,880
and in 2013 it was like october or

3634
02:18:32,549 --> 02:18:29,920
november i just

3635
02:18:34,070 --> 02:18:32,559
i posted it on facebook um and i wonder

3636
02:18:35,110 --> 02:18:34,080
if i've even got that still up on my

3637
02:18:38,150 --> 02:18:35,120
page here uh

3638
02:18:39,910 --> 02:18:38,160
on yeah november 6 2013

3639
02:18:41,830 --> 02:18:39,920
hey universe i want to meet bruce

3640
02:18:45,750 --> 02:18:41,840
springsteen help make this happen

3641
02:18:49,509 --> 02:18:45,760
this needs to happen and three years

3642
02:18:51,750 --> 02:18:49,519
almost to the date on october 3rd 2016

3643
02:18:53,669 --> 02:18:51,760
i posted a picture that said oh my god

3644
02:18:54,549 --> 02:18:53,679
all i could say was thank you you saved

3645
02:18:56,309 --> 02:18:54,559
my life he

3646
02:18:57,589 --> 02:18:56,319
he smiled shook my hand stared me in the

3647
02:18:59,190 --> 02:18:57,599
eyes and said good

3648
02:19:00,469 --> 02:18:59,200
then he said thanks for coming to see me

3649
02:19:02,230 --> 02:19:00,479
and there's a picture of me and bruce

3650
02:19:05,589 --> 02:19:02,240
springsteen

3651
02:19:06,469 --> 02:19:05,599
so i i wanted to be a radio guy growing

3652
02:19:10,389 --> 02:19:06,479
up

3653
02:19:12,389 --> 02:19:10,399
i loved the paranormal in 15 years ago

3654
02:19:14,070 --> 02:19:12,399
somebody believed enough in me to put me

3655
02:19:14,709 --> 02:19:14,080
together doing a radio show about the

3656
02:19:16,469 --> 02:19:14,719
paranormal

3657
02:19:18,070 --> 02:19:16,479
tim my co-host and producer and best

3658
02:19:20,309 --> 02:19:18,080
buddy and here we are

3659
02:19:22,150 --> 02:19:20,319
you know gonna be 15 years this january

3660
02:19:24,629 --> 02:19:22,160
that we've been doing darkness radio

3661
02:19:25,270 --> 02:19:24,639
so i do believe that when you give over

3662
02:19:27,669 --> 02:19:25,280
and you

3663
02:19:28,389 --> 02:19:27,679
set these parameters you see these

3664
02:19:30,150 --> 02:19:28,399
things

3665
02:19:31,910 --> 02:19:30,160
i think you can affect your timeline i

3666
02:19:34,070 --> 02:19:31,920
think you can time travel within

3667
02:19:36,230 --> 02:19:34,080
yourself to affect your past

3668
02:19:37,990 --> 02:19:36,240
and heal i think you can affect your

3669
02:19:39,750 --> 02:19:38,000
future and i think you can create the

3670
02:19:40,070 --> 02:19:39,760
realm in the world that you want around

3671
02:19:41,830 --> 02:19:40,080
you

3672
02:19:43,110 --> 02:19:41,840
and i do believe i stand by all of that

3673
02:19:45,589 --> 02:19:43,120
i'm not saying we are

3674
02:19:46,150 --> 02:19:45,599
our own god but i think we are given

3675
02:19:48,230 --> 02:19:46,160
gifts

3676
02:19:49,750 --> 02:19:48,240
that we need to learn how to master and

3677
02:19:51,990 --> 02:19:49,760
and utilize for good

3678
02:19:53,349 --> 02:19:52,000
and i've always tried to strive to do

3679
02:19:55,590 --> 02:19:53,359
good things it doesn't mean i'm always a

3680
02:19:57,349 --> 02:19:55,600
good man and i don't make bad decisions

3681
02:19:59,270 --> 02:19:57,359
but i try to do good with the things and

3682
02:20:00,389 --> 02:19:59,280
the gifts that are given to me and this

3683
02:20:01,910 --> 02:20:00,399
radio show i've

3684
02:20:04,630 --> 02:20:01,920
used for years for prayer and healing

3685
02:20:06,950 --> 02:20:04,640
i've used to raise money i've used to

3686
02:20:09,110 --> 02:20:06,960
be a platform to help people struggling

3687
02:20:10,710 --> 02:20:09,120
with depression and anxiety because i do

3688
02:20:11,429 --> 02:20:10,720
and i want people to know they're not

3689
02:20:13,270 --> 02:20:11,439
alone

3690
02:20:14,870 --> 02:20:13,280
and if bruce springsteen could inspire

3691
02:20:16,150 --> 02:20:14,880
me with his music to live because i

3692
02:20:17,750 --> 02:20:16,160
realized i wasn't alone

3693
02:20:19,750 --> 02:20:17,760
maybe hearing your favorite paranormal

3694
02:20:21,349 --> 02:20:19,760
radio guy talk about his

3695
02:20:23,910 --> 02:20:21,359
depression and anxiety and that he's

3696
02:20:25,670 --> 02:20:23,920
still here will encourage somebody else

3697
02:20:27,030 --> 02:20:25,680
to keep going and move those steps

3698
02:20:30,150 --> 02:20:27,040
forward and now here i am

3699
02:20:31,110 --> 02:20:30,160
11 kids five grandchildren and an

3700
02:20:33,590 --> 02:20:31,120
amazing life

3701
02:20:35,510 --> 02:20:33,600
and you know i i think there's a big

3702
02:20:37,349 --> 02:20:35,520
aspect of who we are that we can develop

3703
02:20:38,550 --> 02:20:37,359
and i hope people listening will grasp

3704
02:20:40,389 --> 02:20:38,560
something from that

3705
02:20:41,750 --> 02:20:40,399
and make a life that that's worth living

3706
02:20:44,309 --> 02:20:41,760
for themselves well

3707
02:20:44,870 --> 02:20:44,319
and and i think that it goes without

3708
02:20:47,270 --> 02:20:44,880
saying

3709
02:20:48,630 --> 02:20:47,280
that you know jody foster and her

3710
02:20:51,670 --> 02:20:48,640
character

3711
02:20:55,030 --> 02:20:51,680
the the atheist uh

3712
02:20:57,590 --> 02:20:55,040
scientist astronomer and those

3713
02:20:58,070 --> 02:20:57,600
in the science and physics community

3714
02:21:01,830 --> 02:20:58,080
today

3715
02:21:04,950 --> 02:21:01,840
the staunch researchers uh

3716
02:21:08,150 --> 02:21:04,960
always talk about uh you know being

3717
02:21:11,190 --> 02:21:08,160
atheist and and

3718
02:21:12,309 --> 02:21:11,200
numbers being pragmatic right studying

3719
02:21:14,950 --> 02:21:12,319
the science

3720
02:21:16,469 --> 02:21:14,960
studying the chemistry that is where

3721
02:21:20,389 --> 02:21:16,479
their belief system is

3722
02:21:21,270 --> 02:21:20,399
but then dave uh and you just said it

3723
02:21:24,070 --> 02:21:21,280
well

3724
02:21:25,910 --> 02:21:24,080
that what the physicist and the

3725
02:21:27,510 --> 02:21:25,920
theoretical physicist and the quantum

3726
02:21:30,469 --> 02:21:27,520
physicists today

3727
02:21:31,030 --> 02:21:30,479
are discovering and want us to have

3728
02:21:34,309 --> 02:21:31,040
faith

3729
02:21:37,590 --> 02:21:34,319
in is parallel worlds right

3730
02:21:38,870 --> 02:21:37,600
the multiverse time travel right they

3731
02:21:41,190 --> 02:21:38,880
want us to

3732
02:21:42,550 --> 02:21:41,200
to think that all of that exists when

3733
02:21:45,270 --> 02:21:42,560
certainly

3734
02:21:46,070 --> 02:21:45,280
these two worlds are about to collide

3735
02:21:48,790 --> 02:21:46,080
right and

3736
02:21:51,830 --> 02:21:48,800
and and those atheists of the world

3737
02:21:54,710 --> 02:21:51,840
those scientists and those physicists

3738
02:21:56,150 --> 02:21:54,720
may be in for a root awakening of their

3739
02:21:59,110 --> 02:21:56,160
own discovery

3740
02:21:59,990 --> 02:21:59,120
right it happened to uh dr evan

3741
02:22:02,389 --> 02:22:00,000
alexander

3742
02:22:04,230 --> 02:22:02,399
yes it did yes it's it's happened to so

3743
02:22:05,830 --> 02:22:04,240
many people that are in the know

3744
02:22:07,990 --> 02:22:05,840
that they're awakened from their

3745
02:22:10,550 --> 02:22:08,000
paradigm into a whole new

3746
02:22:11,830 --> 02:22:10,560
reality and you know people that are

3747
02:22:14,790 --> 02:22:11,840
listening to shows like

3748
02:22:16,469 --> 02:22:14,800
uh fade to black and darkness radio they

3749
02:22:17,990 --> 02:22:16,479
already are a step ahead because they

3750
02:22:19,590 --> 02:22:18,000
want to expand

3751
02:22:20,950 --> 02:22:19,600
and you've got your skeptics you've got

3752
02:22:22,790 --> 02:22:20,960
your haters who will tune into the

3753
02:22:24,309 --> 02:22:22,800
holzer files to berate me

3754
02:22:25,990 --> 02:22:24,319
and tell me what a [\h__\h] i am but they

3755
02:22:27,830 --> 02:22:26,000
never stop watching

3756
02:22:29,349 --> 02:22:27,840
because they hope i'm gonna teach them

3757
02:22:30,389 --> 02:22:29,359
they hope we're gonna prove it to them

3758
02:22:34,150 --> 02:22:30,399
once and for all

3759
02:22:37,030 --> 02:22:34,160
and behind that anger and hatred is hope

3760
02:22:39,349 --> 02:22:37,040
well i've said it a million times the

3761
02:22:42,389 --> 02:22:39,359
most spiritual person on this planet

3762
02:22:45,670 --> 02:22:42,399
is the is the theoretical physicist as

3763
02:22:49,030 --> 02:22:45,680
the plane is going down

3764
02:22:52,389 --> 02:22:49,040
right i mean i can guarantee it and

3765
02:22:54,469 --> 02:22:52,399
and and that that is it i i

3766
02:22:56,150 --> 02:22:54,479
being in denial because you have a fan

3767
02:22:59,830 --> 02:22:56,160
base and you're a rock star

3768
02:23:02,790 --> 02:22:59,840
scientist um is one thing but the true

3769
02:23:03,510 --> 02:23:02,800
belief system what is down inside of

3770
02:23:05,349 --> 02:23:03,520
them

3771
02:23:06,630 --> 02:23:05,359
they still don't know what consciousness

3772
02:23:08,469 --> 02:23:06,640
is right

3773
02:23:10,150 --> 02:23:08,479
they they don't know what what what's

3774
02:23:13,270 --> 02:23:10,160
the transformation

3775
02:23:16,150 --> 02:23:13,280
from particles to people speaking

3776
02:23:17,349 --> 02:23:16,160
and thinking and laughing you know where

3777
02:23:19,990 --> 02:23:17,359
does that transition

3778
02:23:21,590 --> 02:23:20,000
happen and and how does it happen they

3779
02:23:23,590 --> 02:23:21,600
don't have those answers

3780
02:23:27,110 --> 02:23:23,600
but that is certainly pushing them in

3781
02:23:30,790 --> 02:23:27,120
another direction it has to be right

3782
02:23:32,070 --> 02:23:30,800
i i think so i hope so i i think that

3783
02:23:34,790 --> 02:23:32,080
science is a lot

3784
02:23:37,110 --> 02:23:34,800
more woo-woo than they lead on right but

3785
02:23:39,510 --> 02:23:37,120
they can't get the funding they need

3786
02:23:41,110 --> 02:23:39,520
to talk about woo-woo they you know but

3787
02:23:42,550 --> 02:23:41,120
listen with that said

3788
02:23:45,110 --> 02:23:42,560
you know we can dismiss it but the

3789
02:23:49,270 --> 02:23:45,120
government spent millions of dollars

3790
02:23:51,910 --> 02:23:49,280
on psychic uh war and psychic warfare

3791
02:23:52,550 --> 02:23:51,920
and training and remote viewing and they

3792
02:23:54,950 --> 02:23:52,560
spent

3793
02:23:56,950 --> 02:23:54,960
millions of dollars tracking ufos and

3794
02:23:58,790 --> 02:23:56,960
then denied that that anything came of

3795
02:24:02,070 --> 02:23:58,800
it that they've closed those books

3796
02:24:03,030 --> 02:24:02,080
and then in 2020 they say well not so

3797
02:24:05,510 --> 02:24:03,040
fast

3798
02:24:06,790 --> 02:24:05,520
we didn't really close those books we've

3799
02:24:09,190 --> 02:24:06,800
we've always been

3800
02:24:10,469 --> 02:24:09,200
examining it and that footage that's

3801
02:24:13,270 --> 02:24:10,479
real

3802
02:24:14,950 --> 02:24:13,280
so you know i you have to be cautious

3803
02:24:15,990 --> 02:24:14,960
because again it opens up a paradigm and

3804
02:24:18,870 --> 02:24:16,000
a question that

3805
02:24:20,870 --> 02:24:18,880
they don't know how to answer right it's

3806
02:24:23,670 --> 02:24:20,880
when your child looks you in the eyes

3807
02:24:24,630 --> 02:24:23,680
at a certain age and asks you if things

3808
02:24:26,550 --> 02:24:24,640
that they've all

3809
02:24:28,710 --> 02:24:26,560
believed are real because their friends

3810
02:24:32,070 --> 02:24:28,720
at school say they're not

3811
02:24:34,870 --> 02:24:32,080
you walk that line and i think the world

3812
02:24:36,150 --> 02:24:34,880
leaders and government are the parents

3813
02:24:37,670 --> 02:24:36,160
that

3814
02:24:39,750 --> 02:24:37,680
you know i want to believe you're ready

3815
02:24:41,990 --> 02:24:39,760
for this but i see how you react to

3816
02:24:45,110 --> 02:24:42,000
other things i see the violence and the

3817
02:24:46,550 --> 02:24:45,120
panic and the the freak out and boy if

3818
02:24:48,389 --> 02:24:46,560
we tell you yeah there's aliens and

3819
02:24:50,309 --> 02:24:48,399
they're coming here and we can't really

3820
02:24:51,429 --> 02:24:50,319
stop them from abducting people from

3821
02:24:54,469 --> 02:24:51,439
time to time

3822
02:24:55,990 --> 02:24:54,479
how is that gonna go or yeah we made a

3823
02:24:58,870 --> 02:24:56,000
deal with them they could take

3824
02:25:01,429 --> 02:24:58,880
one percent of our people and experiment

3825
02:25:03,190 --> 02:25:01,439
but in in order to keep us safe

3826
02:25:05,270 --> 02:25:03,200
you know there's so many different lines

3827
02:25:06,870 --> 02:25:05,280
that have to be drawn and i'm not for

3828
02:25:08,870 --> 02:25:06,880
you know i'm all for disclosure i'm all

3829
02:25:11,030 --> 02:25:08,880
for truth but i'm also

3830
02:25:12,230 --> 02:25:11,040
i try to look at things from both sides

3831
02:25:14,070 --> 02:25:12,240
and understand

3832
02:25:15,349 --> 02:25:14,080
why it might be hard to tell the truth

3833
02:25:18,389 --> 02:25:15,359
on something like

3834
02:25:20,150 --> 02:25:18,399
ufos and and especially when you you've

3835
02:25:23,030 --> 02:25:20,160
lied for so long

3836
02:25:24,790 --> 02:25:23,040
you know to come forward and say yeah

3837
02:25:27,030 --> 02:25:24,800
about roswell

3838
02:25:27,830 --> 02:25:27,040
uh let me introduce you to melchior

3839
02:25:30,710 --> 02:25:27,840
seven

3840
02:25:32,230 --> 02:25:30,720
uh he's a surviving crash uh you know

3841
02:25:33,510 --> 02:25:32,240
guard from that ship

3842
02:25:34,950 --> 02:25:33,520
i don't know where it's gonna take us

3843
02:25:36,070 --> 02:25:34,960
but i'm fascinated to be here for the

3844
02:25:38,070 --> 02:25:36,080
ride and see it and

3845
02:25:39,429 --> 02:25:38,080
and be a part of it now i've got uh

3846
02:25:41,750 --> 02:25:39,439
before we uh

3847
02:25:42,710 --> 02:25:41,760
uh run out of time here just a quick

3848
02:25:47,190 --> 02:25:42,720
answer

3849
02:25:48,550 --> 02:25:47,200
okay okay so god god the creator of the

3850
02:25:52,630 --> 02:25:48,560
known universe

3851
02:25:56,150 --> 02:25:52,640
right does that mean in zeta reticuli

3852
02:25:58,469 --> 02:25:56,160
right the same god on those planets

3853
02:26:01,349 --> 02:25:58,479
right same god throughout the milky way

3854
02:26:03,750 --> 02:26:01,359
same god in andromeda

3855
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why not if it's you know or or are there

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gods for every sector

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02:26:07,590 --> 02:26:06,560
i don't i don't know but listen there

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02:26:09,270 --> 02:26:07,600
are people that claim to have been

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reincarnated from other

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02:26:12,790 --> 02:26:11,280
alien life forms that to me would tell

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02:26:13,670 --> 02:26:12,800
that there is a string theory attached

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02:26:16,790 --> 02:26:13,680
to all of this

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02:26:19,590 --> 02:26:16,800
well do we okay so e.t lands

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right and steps off the ship is the pope

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02:26:23,750 --> 02:26:20,319
gonna step

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02:26:25,750 --> 02:26:23,760
in and baptize right i mean how does

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02:26:26,950 --> 02:26:25,760
how do the world's religions deal with

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02:26:29,910 --> 02:26:26,960
that moment

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02:26:30,469 --> 02:26:29,920
well i think you know uh pope benedict

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uh

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02:26:34,790 --> 02:26:33,359
after pope john paul he was the one that

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02:26:36,710 --> 02:26:34,800
kind of came out and said

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02:26:38,630 --> 02:26:36,720
you know maybe it's okay for us to

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02:26:41,750 --> 02:26:38,640
believe that aliens exist

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02:26:46,150 --> 02:26:41,760
it's no longer a sin right uh

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02:26:48,070 --> 02:26:46,160
and and he kind of made this opening

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02:26:49,270 --> 02:26:48,080
and it'd be real easy for religion to

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02:26:51,990 --> 02:26:49,280
say

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02:26:54,790 --> 02:26:52,000
yeah god is great why would he be

3880
02:26:58,389 --> 02:26:54,800
limited if he's this artisan who created

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02:26:59,030 --> 02:26:58,399
the infinite and created the miracle

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02:27:02,710 --> 02:26:59,040
that we

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02:27:05,830 --> 02:27:02,720
are every part of us has a functioning

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02:27:08,550 --> 02:27:05,840
aspect to it and is important

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02:27:10,710 --> 02:27:08,560
you know why would he stop with one

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02:27:12,550 --> 02:27:10,720
little planet

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02:27:14,070 --> 02:27:12,560
why would he stop with one little race

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02:27:16,870 --> 02:27:14,080
of of beings

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02:27:18,550 --> 02:27:16,880
why wouldn't he expand that palette to

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02:27:21,030 --> 02:27:18,560
all the corners of the universe

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02:27:22,309 --> 02:27:21,040
it would be a waste of space it sure

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02:27:23,830 --> 02:27:22,319
would sure would

3893
02:27:26,389 --> 02:27:23,840
hey dave you've got the one of the most

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popular shows on the planet in darkness

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02:27:30,389 --> 02:27:27,439
radio

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02:27:31,990 --> 02:27:30,399
uh for those out there that may not have

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02:27:33,429 --> 02:27:32,000
listened to darkness in the past where

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02:27:35,510 --> 02:27:33,439
where can they find you and

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02:27:36,790 --> 02:27:35,520
and how often do you get the new stuff

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02:27:39,750 --> 02:27:36,800
out uh

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02:27:41,750 --> 02:27:39,760
dave or darkness radio we come out every

3902
02:27:44,790 --> 02:27:41,760
tuesday wednesday thursday and during

3903
02:27:46,230 --> 02:27:44,800
the holzer files um we are doing

3904
02:27:48,230 --> 02:27:46,240
so if you watch the holzer files on

3905
02:27:50,870 --> 02:27:48,240
thursday night on travel channel

3906
02:27:51,750 --> 02:27:50,880
immediately following the eastern

3907
02:27:53,750 --> 02:27:51,760
episode

3908
02:27:55,670 --> 02:27:53,760
uh in central time zone so ten ten

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02:27:57,830 --> 02:27:55,680
o'clock uh

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02:27:58,870 --> 02:27:57,840
episode eastern time nine o'clock

3911
02:28:00,550 --> 02:27:58,880
central time i

3912
02:28:02,710 --> 02:28:00,560
immediately go live on my facebook and

3913
02:28:04,710 --> 02:28:02,720
youtube page with holzer's ghost

3914
02:28:06,230 --> 02:28:04,720
and we examine the episode we just had

3915
02:28:09,110 --> 02:28:06,240
and i'll have special guests

3916
02:28:11,110 --> 02:28:09,120
this week i've got um alexandra holzer

3917
02:28:13,270 --> 02:28:11,120
and i've got karen dalman

3918
02:28:14,309 --> 02:28:13,280
because we do bring a spirit board oh

3919
02:28:16,070 --> 02:28:14,319
that's right

3920
02:28:18,389 --> 02:28:16,080
into this episode oh that should do

3921
02:28:20,150 --> 02:28:18,399
something different spoiler alert i

3922
02:28:21,990 --> 02:28:20,160
didn't want to mention that but

3923
02:28:23,190 --> 02:28:22,000
okay i've been mentioning it because i

3924
02:28:24,389 --> 02:28:23,200
know we're gonna upset a lot of people

3925
02:28:24,950 --> 02:28:24,399
that are like why are you using a ouija

3926
02:28:26,870 --> 02:28:24,960
board but

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02:28:29,030 --> 02:28:26,880
i hope you saw that we did something

3928
02:28:30,950 --> 02:28:29,040
different it's totally cool

3929
02:28:33,190 --> 02:28:30,960
and we wanted to try and experiment and

3930
02:28:33,750 --> 02:28:33,200
karen was my go-to and she walked me

3931
02:28:35,750 --> 02:28:33,760
through

3932
02:28:37,429 --> 02:28:35,760
the principles of what i wanted to do so

3933
02:28:39,110 --> 02:28:37,439
karen dalman will join me alexandra

3934
02:28:40,630 --> 02:28:39,120
holzer and then we make an audio version

3935
02:28:43,030 --> 02:28:40,640
of that available on friday so

3936
02:28:44,070 --> 02:28:43,040
you know you get a lot of darkness dave

3937
02:28:45,510 --> 02:28:44,080
uh through that

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02:28:47,590 --> 02:28:45,520
but they can find all that information

3939
02:28:49,830 --> 02:28:47,600
at darknessradio.com or

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02:28:51,590 --> 02:28:49,840
any smart device just ask it to play

3941
02:28:52,870 --> 02:28:51,600
darkness radio's newest episode and it

3942
02:28:55,590 --> 02:28:52,880
should launch for you

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02:28:57,670 --> 02:28:55,600
um but you know jimmy it's always great

3944
02:28:58,950 --> 02:28:57,680
to visit with you i i'm so proud of the

3945
02:29:00,550 --> 02:28:58,960
series that we've done and i'm

3946
02:29:02,230 --> 02:29:00,560
thankful to people like you that give me

3947
02:29:03,270 --> 02:29:02,240
the form to come out and talk about it i

3948
02:29:05,030 --> 02:29:03,280
hope you'll

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02:29:08,150 --> 02:29:05,040
uh i hope your listeners will check out

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02:29:09,830 --> 02:29:08,160
at least this episode this thursday and

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02:29:11,110 --> 02:29:09,840
see for themselves the holzer files if

3952
02:29:13,190 --> 02:29:11,120
they haven't watched it yet

3953
02:29:15,389 --> 02:29:13,200
on travel channel yeah we've got the

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02:29:16,870 --> 02:29:15,399
links up over at

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02:29:18,870 --> 02:29:16,880
jimmychurchradio.comtravelchannel.com

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02:29:20,389 --> 02:29:18,880
forward slash shows forward slash

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02:29:22,190 --> 02:29:20,399
hoseler files

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02:29:24,110 --> 02:29:22,200
it's right there and of course

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02:29:25,429 --> 02:29:24,120
darknessradio.com the links are over at

3960
02:29:27,750 --> 02:29:25,439
jimmychurchradio.com

3961
02:29:29,349 --> 02:29:27,760
karen dalman is in twitter right now she

3962
02:29:32,230 --> 02:29:29,359
is so excited

3963
02:29:34,389 --> 02:29:32,240
that we just gave her the shout out and

3964
02:29:36,550 --> 02:29:34,399
uh she's the very best dave

3965
02:29:37,429 --> 02:29:36,560
thank you so much you and the family all

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02:29:39,750 --> 02:29:37,439
the best

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02:29:42,070 --> 02:29:39,760
and and please please let us know what

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02:29:45,270 --> 02:29:42,080
happens with uh grandchild

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02:29:46,469 --> 02:29:45,280
number five all the best dave i

3970
02:29:48,630 --> 02:29:46,479
appreciate it thank you happy

3971
02:29:50,389 --> 02:29:48,640
thanksgiving to everybody out there

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02:29:51,830 --> 02:29:50,399
stay safe this year and we'll see you

3973
02:29:53,990 --> 02:29:51,840
again soon thanks jimmy

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02:29:56,150 --> 02:29:54,000
thank you dave dave schrader again the

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02:29:58,389 --> 02:29:56,160
links are over at jimmychurchradio.com

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02:29:59,830 --> 02:29:58,399
everybody very easy to do and of course

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you can follow dave

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at darkness radio right there on twitter

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i'm your host jimmy church i'm going to

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take a quick break right here i'll come

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back to open lines

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thank you dave schrader that was a great

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great conversation he's the best

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man man holzer files i've seen the

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i'm just telling you right now you need

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to tune in on a thursday night and

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peep that out thank you so much dave you

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can follow dave on twitter

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at darknessradio um and uh he's always

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hanging out

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well and the links uh for everything

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dave schrader is

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over at jimmychurchradio.com um

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there you go now i want to go back uh

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i'm going to get to the phone calls here

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in just a second i want to go back to

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what i was talking about earlier about

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parlor and the founders of cambridge

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analytica and and i want to kind of make

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this statement this is this is where

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this is where i am it's just such a

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thing to find out

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who is behind what parlor is all about

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today

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with the environment of everything that

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is going on

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around this country and around the world

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very very interesting right

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but i want to pose this question

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and it's a very simple one if we go back

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to the hearings that happened on capitol

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hill

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uh with zuckerberg and cambridge

4129
02:36:53,830 --> 02:36:51,520
analytica and the way that

4130
02:36:56,469 --> 02:36:53,840
the senate and congress was coming out

4131
02:36:59,270 --> 02:36:56,479
uh after zuckerberg as they should have

4132
02:37:00,389 --> 02:36:59,280
by the way and what went down in the

4133
02:37:03,389 --> 02:37:00,399
united kingdom

4134
02:37:04,550 --> 02:37:03,399
and of course brexit and this being a

4135
02:37:07,990 --> 02:37:04,560
london-based

4136
02:37:09,990 --> 02:37:08,000
company and a couple of documentaries

4137
02:37:12,070 --> 02:37:10,000
came out that air too as well about what

4138
02:37:14,230 --> 02:37:12,080
was going on around the world different

4139
02:37:15,110 --> 02:37:14,240
elections and influence that was

4140
02:37:18,150 --> 02:37:15,120
happening

4141
02:37:21,190 --> 02:37:18,160
uh because of cambridge so if we go back

4142
02:37:24,309 --> 02:37:21,200
two years ago when all of this

4143
02:37:25,270 --> 02:37:24,319
drama was going on and all of the anger

4144
02:37:31,910 --> 02:37:25,280
and

4145
02:37:33,349 --> 02:37:31,920
if cambridge analytica would have said

4146
02:37:36,070 --> 02:37:33,359
back on may 1st

4147
02:37:37,510 --> 02:37:36,080
2018. okay by the way uh this is what's

4148
02:37:41,349 --> 02:37:37,520
going on

4149
02:37:44,870 --> 02:37:41,359
uh we're shutting cambridge down

4150
02:37:48,870 --> 02:37:46,870
the founders and the investors of

4151
02:37:53,110 --> 02:37:48,880
cambridge

4152
02:37:55,670 --> 02:37:53,120
are going to launch a social media

4153
02:37:57,429 --> 02:37:55,680
platform

4154
02:37:59,030 --> 02:37:57,439
so we're gonna that's what we're gonna

4155
02:38:03,750 --> 02:37:59,040
do what

4156
02:38:07,190 --> 02:38:05,910
right it would probably wouldn't have

4157
02:38:08,950 --> 02:38:07,200
been allowed to happen

4158
02:38:10,950 --> 02:38:08,960
there would have been so much scrutiny

4159
02:38:14,150 --> 02:38:10,960
and things on it

4160
02:38:15,270 --> 02:38:14,160
uh focused on it probably wouldn't have

4161
02:38:20,389 --> 02:38:15,280
happened

4162
02:38:23,590 --> 02:38:20,399
so parlor launches the way it does

4163
02:38:25,349 --> 02:38:23,600
and we know now

4164
02:38:27,190 --> 02:38:25,359
where it's at and what it is okay that's

4165
02:38:30,950 --> 02:38:27,200
fine but now

4166
02:38:33,990 --> 02:38:30,960
after the fact we find out

4167
02:38:38,309 --> 02:38:37,349
its origins and its genesis and the

4168
02:38:40,830 --> 02:38:38,319
progenator

4169
02:38:41,990 --> 02:38:40,840
that goes back to cambridge and not only

4170
02:38:51,190 --> 02:38:42,000
that

4171
02:38:53,830 --> 02:38:51,200
was formed

4172
02:38:56,550 --> 02:38:53,840
by those from the principals and

4173
02:38:59,030 --> 02:38:56,560
executives and investors of cambridge

4174
02:39:00,389 --> 02:38:59,040
was just basically allowed to continue

4175
02:39:03,429 --> 02:39:00,399
in the cambridge

4176
02:39:04,469 --> 02:39:03,439
analytica offices in london they didn't

4177
02:39:07,590 --> 02:39:04,479
even change their

4178
02:39:11,510 --> 02:39:07,600
address and

4179
02:39:14,070 --> 02:39:11,520
and i'm just saying that all of the

4180
02:39:15,429 --> 02:39:14,080
the anger and the outrage that happened

4181
02:39:19,190 --> 02:39:15,439
two years ago

4182
02:39:21,750 --> 02:39:19,200
really it's been allowed to continue

4183
02:39:23,670 --> 02:39:21,760
so if if they would have announced a

4184
02:39:27,349 --> 02:39:23,680
social media platform

4185
02:39:29,190 --> 02:39:27,359
two years ago can you imagine the anchor

4186
02:39:31,270 --> 02:39:29,200
how can you do that how can you

4187
02:39:33,349 --> 02:39:31,280
just did this thing where you were

4188
02:39:38,230 --> 02:39:33,359
stealing data

4189
02:39:42,309 --> 02:39:38,240
uh buying data acquiring data through

4190
02:39:45,990 --> 02:39:42,319
uh apps and questions on facebook and

4191
02:39:49,030 --> 02:39:46,000
taking that data back and using it

4192
02:39:51,030 --> 02:39:49,040
to influence elections

4193
02:39:52,070 --> 02:39:51,040
and politics around the world that now

4194
02:39:54,150 --> 02:39:52,080
you want to be

4195
02:39:56,070 --> 02:39:54,160
able to have your own social media

4196
02:39:59,590 --> 02:39:56,080
platform

4197
02:40:00,950 --> 02:39:59,600
i don't think so so i just want to put

4198
02:40:03,990 --> 02:40:00,960
that out there i just

4199
02:40:06,630 --> 02:40:04,000
i want everybody to really think

4200
02:40:08,070 --> 02:40:06,640
you know and to have uh you know i i

4201
02:40:09,510 --> 02:40:08,080
know that there's people out there today

4202
02:40:11,750 --> 02:40:09,520
that are going well you know what uh

4203
02:40:13,110 --> 02:40:11,760
it just happens anyway you know who

4204
02:40:16,070 --> 02:40:13,120
really cares who

4205
02:40:17,670 --> 02:40:16,080
oh really you weren't outraged two years

4206
02:40:19,030 --> 02:40:17,680
ago

4207
02:40:20,630 --> 02:40:19,040
you know and i'm not saying that

4208
02:40:23,030 --> 02:40:20,640
zuckerberg didn't deserve everything

4209
02:40:24,150 --> 02:40:23,040
that he had coming at him he deserved it

4210
02:40:27,349 --> 02:40:24,160
all

4211
02:40:30,630 --> 02:40:27,359
but that anger is now what what zuck

4212
02:40:38,070 --> 02:40:34,230
it's a crazy thing i mean i'm i'm just

4213
02:40:39,510 --> 02:40:38,080
i everything that i the rabbit hole that

4214
02:40:42,550 --> 02:40:39,520
i jumped around

4215
02:40:44,790 --> 02:40:42,560
and through and down into today

4216
02:40:47,590 --> 02:40:44,800
every click everything all of this

4217
02:40:50,110 --> 02:40:47,600
official stuff from cambridge

4218
02:40:51,670 --> 02:40:50,120
from parlor this isn't is some

4219
02:40:53,990 --> 02:40:51,680
conspiracy

4220
02:40:55,269 --> 02:40:54,000
video which i didn't watch anything like

4221
02:40:59,590 --> 02:40:55,279
that

4222
02:41:02,630 --> 02:40:59,600
all of the uh uh news media outlets

4223
02:41:06,469 --> 02:41:02,640
over the last two days all of them

4224
02:41:10,070 --> 02:41:06,479
all of them from reuters and ap down

4225
02:41:12,309 --> 02:41:10,080
are now reporting on this it's crazy

4226
02:41:14,870 --> 02:41:12,319
this isn't this isn't oh church where'd

4227
02:41:19,269 --> 02:41:14,880
you get your information from

4228
02:41:21,830 --> 02:41:19,279
oh man it's it's it's crazy

4229
02:41:23,349 --> 02:41:21,840
it's absolutely crazy so there you go

4230
02:41:26,309 --> 02:41:23,359
what

4231
02:41:27,269 --> 02:41:26,319
to you it would have been allowed to

4232
02:41:29,830 --> 02:41:27,279
happen

4233
02:41:31,110 --> 02:41:29,840
but today it is all right so with that

4234
02:41:32,630 --> 02:41:31,120
let's go to the phones

4235
02:41:35,429 --> 02:41:32,640
hi you're live on fate of black who's

4236
02:41:41,030 --> 02:41:38,790
you're live champs handling

4237
02:41:43,269 --> 02:41:41,040
this is james who you don't have to give

4238
02:41:46,070 --> 02:41:43,279
your last name james

4239
02:41:46,950 --> 02:41:46,080
okay i'm calling from dreamland las

4240
02:41:54,790 --> 02:41:46,960
vegas

4241
02:41:57,830 --> 02:41:54,800
right

4242
02:42:01,990 --> 02:41:57,840
i was hoping for some secret underground

4243
02:42:03,990 --> 02:42:02,000
tube train going from luxor to area 51.

4244
02:42:05,190 --> 02:42:04,000
that's not secret uh okay all right

4245
02:42:06,230 --> 02:42:05,200
we'll talk about that we'll talk about

4246
02:42:07,830 --> 02:42:06,240
that off here

4247
02:42:09,670 --> 02:42:07,840
okay you got it james what's on your

4248
02:42:12,870 --> 02:42:09,680
mind

4249
02:42:13,349 --> 02:42:12,880
um i had a question about the life after

4250
02:42:16,150 --> 02:42:13,359
death

4251
02:42:16,630 --> 02:42:16,160
um thing that that host that you had on

4252
02:42:23,349 --> 02:42:16,640
yeah

4253
02:42:24,389 --> 02:42:23,359
i was wondering um when you when you die

4254
02:42:27,590 --> 02:42:24,399
because i had a

4255
02:42:29,030 --> 02:42:27,600
i had a i had a girlfriend that recently

4256
02:42:31,830 --> 02:42:29,040
passed away

4257
02:42:33,910 --> 02:42:31,840
um miranda and um i was wondering when

4258
02:42:36,389 --> 02:42:33,920
you die do you think um

4259
02:42:36,950 --> 02:42:36,399
say if i die a week from now do you

4260
02:42:39,510 --> 02:42:36,960
think

4261
02:42:41,750 --> 02:42:39,520
when you i will meet her when i die you

4262
02:42:46,630 --> 02:42:41,760
that you meet the people that passed on

4263
02:42:49,910 --> 02:42:46,640
well um what do you think james

4264
02:42:54,469 --> 02:42:49,920
i'm hoping so i'm thinking yes but um

4265
02:42:57,830 --> 02:42:54,479
i'd like to know your opinion ah

4266
02:43:01,830 --> 02:42:57,840
uh i

4267
02:43:05,030 --> 02:43:01,840
i um i haven't

4268
02:43:08,389 --> 02:43:05,040
i haven't had an official nde

4269
02:43:11,190 --> 02:43:08,399
myself but i came close okay and

4270
02:43:11,990 --> 02:43:11,200
and i didn't know i was sick i was in

4271
02:43:15,269 --> 02:43:12,000
the hospital

4272
02:43:18,309 --> 02:43:15,279
and i uh i passed out uh

4273
02:43:21,830 --> 02:43:18,319
when i uh first uh

4274
02:43:23,830 --> 02:43:21,840
um okay it was like this i'll give you

4275
02:43:26,070 --> 02:43:23,840
the short version of the story

4276
02:43:27,030 --> 02:43:26,080
i'm listening i'm in the hospital i get

4277
02:43:28,389 --> 02:43:27,040
admitted i'm

4278
02:43:30,469 --> 02:43:28,399
in the emergency room they were

4279
02:43:30,950 --> 02:43:30,479
expecting me my doctor called and said

4280
02:43:33,590 --> 02:43:30,960
okay

4281
02:43:34,070 --> 02:43:33,600
you know so i get there i'm in i'm in

4282
02:43:43,349 --> 02:43:34,080
the

4283
02:43:46,230 --> 02:43:43,359
comes in and says okay

4284
02:43:47,190 --> 02:43:46,240
it's like this we're gonna admit you to

4285
02:43:49,030 --> 02:43:47,200
the hospital

4286
02:43:51,349 --> 02:43:49,040
we don't really know when you're gonna

4287
02:43:55,030 --> 02:43:51,359
leave but you're pretty sick

4288
02:43:55,670 --> 02:43:55,040
and and i looked at him and closed my

4289
02:43:58,309 --> 02:43:55,680
eyes

4290
02:44:00,070 --> 02:43:58,319
it's the last thing i remember okay so

4291
02:44:03,750 --> 02:44:00,080
now i'm out

4292
02:44:06,950 --> 02:44:03,760
and i i wake up now

4293
02:44:07,510 --> 02:44:06,960
i wake up four days later and when i

4294
02:44:10,710 --> 02:44:07,520
wake up

4295
02:44:13,429 --> 02:44:10,720
i didn't know four days passed but uh

4296
02:44:14,790 --> 02:44:13,439
yeah i woke up four days later and i

4297
02:44:18,150 --> 02:44:14,800
literally

4298
02:44:18,710 --> 02:44:18,160
got a priest sitting next to my bed with

4299
02:44:21,030 --> 02:44:18,720
the bible

4300
02:44:23,750 --> 02:44:21,040
right i'm like what i'm kind of looking

4301
02:44:27,190 --> 02:44:23,760
around the room and i'm trying to

4302
02:44:28,630 --> 02:44:27,200
get get acclimated right i'm in the

4303
02:44:32,309 --> 02:44:28,640
hospital i don't remember

4304
02:44:34,230 --> 02:44:32,319
anything and and he freaks out

4305
02:44:36,469 --> 02:44:34,240
and he's hitting the button right he's

4306
02:44:39,110 --> 02:44:36,479
calling the nurse and the doctors

4307
02:44:40,389 --> 02:44:39,120
and and he and and he's freaking out i'm

4308
02:44:42,630 --> 02:44:40,399
like why is everybody freaking out

4309
02:44:46,870 --> 02:44:42,640
what's going on but then

4310
02:44:49,990 --> 02:44:46,880
i started to remember right then

4311
02:44:51,990 --> 02:44:50,000
about what

4312
02:44:53,910 --> 02:44:52,000
what happened that happened now i didn't

4313
02:44:54,950 --> 02:44:53,920
remember me passing out i'm talking

4314
02:44:57,990 --> 02:44:54,960
about what

4315
02:45:00,469 --> 02:44:58,000
where where i was and where i was over

4316
02:45:02,389 --> 02:45:00,479
those four days was

4317
02:45:05,190 --> 02:45:02,399
i was in this place i've described it

4318
02:45:08,950 --> 02:45:05,200
before um

4319
02:45:10,230 --> 02:45:08,960
it was black and and i was sitting at a

4320
02:45:12,550 --> 02:45:10,240
table

4321
02:45:14,309 --> 02:45:12,560
for four days in this you know couldn't

4322
02:45:16,550 --> 02:45:14,319
see any walls couldn't see the floor

4323
02:45:18,230 --> 02:45:16,560
couldn't see the ceiling i'm just like

4324
02:45:19,750 --> 02:45:18,240
sitting at this table and chairs for

4325
02:45:23,349 --> 02:45:19,760
four days and

4326
02:45:26,389 --> 02:45:23,359
writing music but i was

4327
02:45:30,230 --> 02:45:26,399
happy i was in

4328
02:45:33,590 --> 02:45:30,240
the zone i was

4329
02:45:35,590 --> 02:45:33,600
it was cool so this is what happened the

4330
02:45:37,030 --> 02:45:35,600
doctors are coming in

4331
02:45:39,110 --> 02:45:37,040
they're doing this they're poking a

4332
02:45:42,389 --> 02:45:39,120
product

4333
02:45:46,790 --> 02:45:42,399
it's like nutstown and all i'm thinking

4334
02:45:48,469 --> 02:45:46,800
to myself is i want to go back

4335
02:45:50,550 --> 02:45:48,479
i want to go back to where i was i'm

4336
02:45:52,630 --> 02:45:50,560
going to close my eyes

4337
02:45:54,469 --> 02:45:52,640
i got to get back to that place and i

4338
02:45:58,110 --> 02:45:54,479
never did by the way

4339
02:46:01,349 --> 02:45:58,120
i never did um so is that any

4340
02:46:04,389 --> 02:46:01,359
indication um

4341
02:46:05,910 --> 02:46:04,399
of of of something i don't know you know

4342
02:46:08,870 --> 02:46:05,920
i really don't

4343
02:46:09,990 --> 02:46:08,880
but it was technically you didn't go you

4344
02:46:11,990 --> 02:46:10,000
didn't die all the way

4345
02:46:13,910 --> 02:46:12,000
you went you went a quarter or a half

4346
02:46:16,150 --> 02:46:13,920
yeah right right right

4347
02:46:18,309 --> 02:46:16,160
see this is what this is what was really

4348
02:46:19,349 --> 02:46:18,319
trippy over the next uh two or three

4349
02:46:21,750 --> 02:46:19,359
weeks

4350
02:46:23,190 --> 02:46:21,760
i'm making nice nice with the nurses

4351
02:46:24,950 --> 02:46:23,200
right they're all coming in i'm trying

4352
02:46:26,790 --> 02:46:24,960
to get info out of them because nobody's

4353
02:46:30,389 --> 02:46:26,800
really telling me anything

4354
02:46:32,630 --> 02:46:30,399
and the overnight nurses um

4355
02:46:33,990 --> 02:46:32,640
uh because i couldn't really sleep at

4356
02:46:35,750 --> 02:46:34,000
night and

4357
02:46:37,990 --> 02:46:35,760
and there's a lot of reasons for that

4358
02:46:40,070 --> 02:46:38,000
changing my ivs like every four hours

4359
02:46:41,429 --> 02:46:40,080
and waking me up and doing so i never

4360
02:46:44,230 --> 02:46:41,439
really like slept slept

4361
02:46:44,950 --> 02:46:44,240
but so overnight yeah i got them

4362
02:46:47,990 --> 02:46:44,960
bringing me

4363
02:46:49,830 --> 02:46:48,000
steak and eggs you know and and they're

4364
02:46:51,670 --> 02:46:49,840
you know they're they're hooking me up

4365
02:46:52,309 --> 02:46:51,680
and i'm i'm becoming friends with them

4366
02:46:56,150 --> 02:46:52,319
and

4367
02:46:57,110 --> 02:46:56,160
you know i'm a 20 year old long-haired

4368
02:46:59,990 --> 02:46:57,120
rocker

4369
02:47:00,550 --> 02:47:00,000
i'm not i'm not what else is on this

4370
02:47:03,590 --> 02:47:00,560
floor

4371
02:47:05,110 --> 02:47:03,600
right right so um but anyway i started

4372
02:47:05,990 --> 02:47:05,120
to get more and more information out of

4373
02:47:09,269 --> 02:47:06,000
them and what they were

4374
02:47:09,910 --> 02:47:09,279
telling me is i scared the crap out of

4375
02:47:13,349 --> 02:47:09,920
them because

4376
02:47:15,190 --> 02:47:13,359
my temperature was swinging like 10

4377
02:47:18,389 --> 02:47:15,200
degrees every hour

4378
02:47:20,710 --> 02:47:18,399
right like going going way low then

4379
02:47:22,230 --> 02:47:20,720
going way high and i was going through

4380
02:47:25,110 --> 02:47:22,240
these cycles and they were

4381
02:47:27,030 --> 02:47:25,120
constantly monitoring me and they were

4382
02:47:29,990 --> 02:47:27,040
really really freaked out about that now

4383
02:47:31,990 --> 02:47:30,000
what they didn't say

4384
02:47:33,269 --> 02:47:32,000
is something crazy and that would have

4385
02:47:36,389 --> 02:47:33,279
like freaked me out like

4386
02:47:37,349 --> 02:47:36,399
yeah you died and we brought you back or

4387
02:47:39,670 --> 02:47:37,359
this happened no

4388
02:47:41,349 --> 02:47:39,680
no they never said any of that but they

4389
02:47:44,469 --> 02:47:41,359
said enough to me

4390
02:47:46,230 --> 02:47:44,479
that i could tell that they were really

4391
02:47:48,790 --> 02:47:46,240
really freaked out

4392
02:47:49,990 --> 02:47:48,800
all i know is that when they were

4393
02:47:51,750 --> 02:47:50,000
telling me i was having these

4394
02:47:54,469 --> 02:47:51,760
temperature swings

4395
02:47:55,590 --> 02:47:54,479
uh you know for four days i didn't feel

4396
02:48:00,469 --> 02:47:55,600
any of that

4397
02:48:04,150 --> 02:48:00,479
this happy place

4398
02:48:07,670 --> 02:48:04,160
trippy

4399
02:48:09,429 --> 02:48:07,680
night um

4400
02:48:11,670 --> 02:48:09,439
i was hoping that i was going to close

4401
02:48:16,870 --> 02:48:11,680
my eyes james i'm not making this up

4402
02:48:19,030 --> 02:48:16,880
i was hoping that i'd and and go back

4403
02:48:20,630 --> 02:48:19,040
but you never have i never did never

4404
02:48:23,590 --> 02:48:20,640
have since either

4405
02:48:24,389 --> 02:48:23,600
maybe you will tonight yeah oh man i

4406
02:48:27,429 --> 02:48:24,399
don't know

4407
02:48:30,870 --> 02:48:27,439
see this is

4408
02:48:33,750 --> 02:48:30,880
and this is where i'm going um i

4409
02:48:34,630 --> 02:48:33,760
think that uh now i'm going to answer

4410
02:48:37,830 --> 02:48:34,640
your question

4411
02:48:41,190 --> 02:48:37,840
i i really think that

4412
02:48:43,110 --> 02:48:41,200
the universe is electric

4413
02:48:44,389 --> 02:48:43,120
i really believe that the universe is

4414
02:48:47,429 --> 02:48:44,399
connected

4415
02:48:48,389 --> 02:48:47,439
and and i think that all atoms and

4416
02:48:51,349 --> 02:48:48,399
particles and

4417
02:48:53,590 --> 02:48:51,359
entanglement and things are connected

4418
02:48:56,630 --> 02:48:53,600
through the vastness of space big

4419
02:48:58,469 --> 02:48:56,640
distances and

4420
02:49:01,990 --> 02:48:58,479
the energies that make up a

4421
02:49:05,190 --> 02:49:02,000
consciousness or a soul or a human being

4422
02:49:08,309 --> 02:49:05,200
i don't know but i i truly i

4423
02:49:11,110 --> 02:49:08,319
i believe this that

4424
02:49:12,389 --> 02:49:11,120
i don't know where it goes but i don't

4425
02:49:15,429 --> 02:49:12,399
think it dies

4426
02:49:17,910 --> 02:49:15,439
with the person right i i don't know

4427
02:49:19,910 --> 02:49:17,920
i i don't believe it yeah yeah i don't

4428
02:49:20,710 --> 02:49:19,920
know if it goes to mars or if it goes to

4429
02:49:23,030 --> 02:49:20,720
the moon

4430
02:49:25,110 --> 02:49:23,040
or if it goes to a constellation or

4431
02:49:28,389 --> 02:49:25,120
another star system or another gal

4432
02:49:29,349 --> 02:49:28,399
i don't know you know i that part yeah

4433
02:49:31,910 --> 02:49:29,359
you know it's one of the biggest

4434
02:49:35,190 --> 02:49:31,920
questions but um i

4435
02:49:39,349 --> 02:49:35,200
i i truly believe that what makes you

4436
02:49:41,429 --> 02:49:39,359
james is not is not

4437
02:49:43,349 --> 02:49:41,439
the atoms and molecules that make up

4438
02:49:44,230 --> 02:49:43,359
your body and the chemicals that make up

4439
02:49:46,469 --> 02:49:44,240
your body

4440
02:49:48,309 --> 02:49:46,479
there's something else that makes you

4441
02:49:50,950 --> 02:49:48,319
wonder and ponder and ask

4442
02:49:52,230 --> 02:49:50,960
questions and that's your consciousness

4443
02:49:55,190 --> 02:49:52,240
you know that's your soul

4444
02:49:56,230 --> 02:49:55,200
so i don't yeah i i i don't think that

4445
02:49:59,269 --> 02:49:56,240
goes anywhere

4446
02:50:02,870 --> 02:49:59,279
i just don't know where it goes

4447
02:50:04,150 --> 02:50:02,880
right i don't know okay i don't know i

4448
02:50:08,389 --> 02:50:04,160
don't know

4449
02:50:10,150 --> 02:50:08,399
test drive and find out and come back

4450
02:50:12,630 --> 02:50:10,160
and give you the answers

4451
02:50:14,230 --> 02:50:12,640
i don't want you to either yeah exactly

4452
02:50:17,429 --> 02:50:14,240
i don't want to do that

4453
02:50:20,550 --> 02:50:17,439
but yeah there is um

4454
02:50:21,510 --> 02:50:20,560
uh i i think that possibly through

4455
02:50:24,550 --> 02:50:21,520
meditation

4456
02:50:25,830 --> 02:50:24,560
not or not even something is as involved

4457
02:50:29,110 --> 02:50:25,840
in that as that

4458
02:50:32,150 --> 02:50:29,120
but uh dreams what about dreams well

4459
02:50:36,630 --> 02:50:32,160
i'm going there you know so going

4460
02:50:39,830 --> 02:50:36,640
going into deep thought a quiet room um

4461
02:50:41,510 --> 02:50:39,840
and and talking and and maybe asking

4462
02:50:44,630 --> 02:50:41,520
questions out loud

4463
02:50:45,990 --> 02:50:44,640
and then you know something falls over

4464
02:50:47,429 --> 02:50:46,000
in your room

4465
02:50:49,110 --> 02:50:47,439
you know something you know something

4466
02:50:51,910 --> 02:50:49,120
you know whatever but something that

4467
02:50:54,870 --> 02:50:51,920
would give you a signal

4468
02:50:55,190 --> 02:50:54,880
that they're there and listening you

4469
02:50:58,710 --> 02:50:55,200
know

4470
02:51:01,750 --> 02:50:58,720
voice out loud

4471
02:51:02,389 --> 02:51:01,760
that might freak you out but but you

4472
02:51:05,910 --> 02:51:02,399
never know

4473
02:51:06,550 --> 02:51:05,920
at first yeah yeah but uh yeah thank you

4474
02:51:15,990 --> 02:51:06,560
for

4475
02:51:18,230 --> 02:51:16,000
you have to do

4476
02:51:20,150 --> 02:51:18,240
you have to watch yeah you gotta wonder

4477
02:51:21,670 --> 02:51:20,160
you just gotta do that it's been a

4478
02:51:23,269 --> 02:51:21,680
it's been a pleasure jimmy it's been a

4479
02:51:24,870 --> 02:51:23,279
dream time while i've always wanted to

4480
02:51:26,469 --> 02:51:24,880
talk to you nice talking to you yeah

4481
02:51:28,469 --> 02:51:26,479
thank you james and be safe out there in

4482
02:51:30,150 --> 02:51:28,479
las vegas

4483
02:51:32,230 --> 02:51:30,160
youtube buddy yeah it's a great call

4484
02:51:34,710 --> 02:51:32,240
thank you james uh

4485
02:51:39,190 --> 02:51:34,720
and and i love that he's he's in

4486
02:51:42,469 --> 02:51:41,429
absolutely no question about it uh you

4487
02:51:44,469 --> 02:51:42,479
know what

4488
02:51:46,630 --> 02:51:44,479
um i've got a lot of calls on hold this

4489
02:51:48,230 --> 02:51:46,640
one just came in i you know what and

4490
02:51:49,110 --> 02:51:48,240
everybody that's in the hole do you know

4491
02:51:51,670 --> 02:51:49,120
it

4492
02:51:52,710 --> 02:51:51,680
uh but i gotta take this call hi you're

4493
02:51:54,550 --> 02:51:52,720
live on fade to black

4494
02:51:56,230 --> 02:51:54,560
you got bounced to the front of the line

4495
02:51:58,469 --> 02:51:56,240
who's calling

4496
02:51:59,590 --> 02:51:58,479
thank you jimmy hey it's deb i had to

4497
02:52:01,670 --> 02:51:59,600
call because

4498
02:52:03,269 --> 02:52:01,680
of what you guys are talking about and

4499
02:52:03,990 --> 02:52:03,279
thank you for asking that question of

4500
02:52:06,150 --> 02:52:04,000
dave

4501
02:52:07,510 --> 02:52:06,160
it goes into the god topic and last time

4502
02:52:08,630 --> 02:52:07,520
when you and i were talking about the

4503
02:52:10,309 --> 02:52:08,640
four doors

4504
02:52:11,830 --> 02:52:10,319
you asked two questions and i've been

4505
02:52:14,150 --> 02:52:11,840
thinking a lot about them

4506
02:52:15,910 --> 02:52:14,160
one was what's it going to take to get

4507
02:52:18,870 --> 02:52:15,920
us all on the same page

4508
02:52:19,349 --> 02:52:18,880
as you know a world and the answer to

4509
02:52:22,150 --> 02:52:19,359
that is

4510
02:52:24,389 --> 02:52:22,160
unconditional love now the second part

4511
02:52:27,510 --> 02:52:24,399
of that is how do we get there

4512
02:52:30,070 --> 02:52:27,520
and when you talk about

4513
02:52:31,269 --> 02:52:30,080
god what i've kind of resolved in my

4514
02:52:33,269 --> 02:52:31,279
mind just from my

4515
02:52:34,309 --> 02:52:33,279
everything i've learned so far in my

4516
02:52:37,510 --> 02:52:34,319
life

4517
02:52:40,309 --> 02:52:37,520
is that each of us have a spark of god

4518
02:52:42,550 --> 02:52:40,319
in us and that's how he knows what

4519
02:52:44,150 --> 02:52:42,560
you're doing and you know like you said

4520
02:52:45,510 --> 02:52:44,160
how does he know what everyone's doing

4521
02:52:48,550 --> 02:52:45,520
he's watching you

4522
02:52:51,750 --> 02:52:48,560
you went into that scenario remember

4523
02:52:53,269 --> 02:52:51,760
so that god spark is in all of us now

4524
02:52:54,870 --> 02:52:53,279
whatever you call that spark whether

4525
02:52:56,309 --> 02:52:54,880
it's your soul or your consciousness i

4526
02:52:57,269 --> 02:52:56,319
think it's all the same thing it's

4527
02:53:01,190 --> 02:52:57,279
bundled

4528
02:53:02,870 --> 02:53:01,200
into god and your soul

4529
02:53:04,630 --> 02:53:02,880
and your consciousness which might be

4530
02:53:05,830 --> 02:53:04,640
the trinity who knows whatever you want

4531
02:53:07,830 --> 02:53:05,840
to call it

4532
02:53:09,590 --> 02:53:07,840
and i don't know if you've ever held an

4533
02:53:10,550 --> 02:53:09,600
animal in your arms and had to put it to

4534
02:53:13,429 --> 02:53:10,560
sleep

4535
02:53:14,389 --> 02:53:13,439
don't go there yeah well yeah don't go

4536
02:53:17,190 --> 02:53:14,399
there i know

4537
02:53:19,030 --> 02:53:17,200
well i i have to but i won't get graphic

4538
02:53:20,710 --> 02:53:19,040
but when you have that animal

4539
02:53:22,710 --> 02:53:20,720
and they give them the shot and they go

4540
02:53:24,389 --> 02:53:22,720
peacefully there's a little blunt

4541
02:53:26,630 --> 02:53:24,399
light in their eyes and when they go

4542
02:53:29,910 --> 02:53:26,640
that light you can literally see it

4543
02:53:32,309 --> 02:53:29,920
it's gone it just it just fades out

4544
02:53:34,710 --> 02:53:32,319
and i think when it fades out that's

4545
02:53:36,630 --> 02:53:34,720
their consciousness that's their soul

4546
02:53:38,469 --> 02:53:36,640
and they have it and i think we have it

4547
02:53:41,269 --> 02:53:38,479
too and that

4548
02:53:44,230 --> 02:53:41,279
consciousness that spark is in all of us

4549
02:53:46,150 --> 02:53:44,240
and so if we allow that spark to develop

4550
02:53:47,910 --> 02:53:46,160
into unconditional love just like

4551
02:53:49,510 --> 02:53:47,920
planting a seed in the ground

4552
02:53:52,710 --> 02:53:49,520
do you ignore it or do you water it and

4553
02:53:55,750 --> 02:53:52,720
let it grow into a fabulous tree

4554
02:53:57,429 --> 02:53:55,760
you know um a redwood um

4555
02:53:59,590 --> 02:53:57,439
that's the challenge that god i think

4556
02:54:00,230 --> 02:53:59,600
gives each of us and how far do we

4557
02:54:03,429 --> 02:54:00,240
evolve it

4558
02:54:03,990 --> 02:54:03,439
into unconditional love well uh let's

4559
02:54:07,830 --> 02:54:04,000
hope

4560
02:54:10,230 --> 02:54:07,840
that 2021 brings that you know

4561
02:54:11,030 --> 02:54:10,240
i i i think we've run out of time in

4562
02:54:13,269 --> 02:54:11,040
2020

4563
02:54:14,790 --> 02:54:13,279
i don't think uh we're gonna see some

4564
02:54:18,469 --> 02:54:14,800
some miracle but

4565
02:54:21,030 --> 02:54:18,479
uh hopefully 2021

4566
02:54:22,150 --> 02:54:21,040
uh this planet starts to go on the mend

4567
02:54:25,110 --> 02:54:22,160
thank you so much

4568
02:54:25,670 --> 02:54:25,120
deb and uh we'll see you tomorrow night

4569
02:54:27,030 --> 02:54:25,680
absolutely

4570
02:54:28,710 --> 02:54:27,040
thank you so much for having dave one

4571
02:54:30,230 --> 02:54:28,720
that was you guys were just fabulous

4572
02:54:32,790 --> 02:54:30,240
yeah it was a great show yeah thank you

4573
02:54:37,590 --> 02:54:32,800
so much okay thank you bye-bye

4574
02:54:41,510 --> 02:54:37,600
deb from sacramento

4575
02:54:43,269 --> 02:54:41,520
great conversation with dave and

4576
02:54:44,710 --> 02:54:43,279
you know look it's always great with

4577
02:54:46,070 --> 02:54:44,720
dave uh

4578
02:54:48,710 --> 02:54:46,080
there's no question about that but

4579
02:54:51,990 --> 02:54:48,720
tonight it was uh extra special

4580
02:54:53,110 --> 02:54:52,000
and i've got time for one more phone

4581
02:54:56,710 --> 02:54:53,120
call

4582
02:55:01,190 --> 02:54:56,720
and it's not

4583
02:55:04,870 --> 02:55:01,200
picking up come on come on come on

4584
02:55:11,429 --> 02:55:08,469
what is going on

4585
02:55:12,150 --> 02:55:11,439
hmm you know i started to notice it was

4586
02:55:15,590 --> 02:55:12,160
really

4587
02:55:18,469 --> 02:55:15,600
weird earlier um

4588
02:55:20,150 --> 02:55:18,479
i was clicking through and uh everything

4589
02:55:20,950 --> 02:55:20,160
is responding slowly i'm talking about

4590
02:55:24,070 --> 02:55:20,960
the internet

4591
02:55:27,190 --> 02:55:24,080
in general uh opening up emails

4592
02:55:30,469 --> 02:55:27,200
slow twitter comments

4593
02:55:33,510 --> 02:55:30,479
slow and uh and

4594
02:55:34,150 --> 02:55:33,520
it's been doing this with uh the phone

4595
02:55:38,070 --> 02:55:34,160
system

4596
02:55:39,910 --> 02:55:38,080
it's it's just like really really slow

4597
02:55:41,190 --> 02:55:39,920
and it doesn't look like we're gonna get

4598
02:55:44,550 --> 02:55:41,200
there

4599
02:55:45,190 --> 02:55:44,560
so wow okay all right i'm at the end of

4600
02:55:46,710 --> 02:55:45,200
the show

4601
02:55:49,590 --> 02:55:46,720
everybody that was on hold i tried to go

4602
02:55:52,790 --> 02:55:49,600
back i tried to get you in

4603
02:55:54,469 --> 02:55:52,800
i'm just letting you know

4604
02:55:55,990 --> 02:55:54,479
i don't want to rattle off all the area

4605
02:55:59,349 --> 02:55:56,000
codes but uh

4606
02:56:02,870 --> 02:55:59,359
uh let it be known i actually tried

4607
02:56:06,870 --> 02:56:02,880
um i am going to uh i'm gonna

4608
02:56:09,990 --> 02:56:06,880
go through uh the next uh

4609
02:56:11,110 --> 02:56:10,000
day uh tonight and tomorrow i'm gonna go

4610
02:56:14,389 --> 02:56:11,120
through and read

4611
02:56:16,950 --> 02:56:14,399
all of the comments uh from the

4612
02:56:18,309 --> 02:56:16,960
uh various social media postings i did

4613
02:56:20,870 --> 02:56:18,319
uh today

4614
02:56:21,349 --> 02:56:20,880
uh about parlor and the revelations that

4615
02:56:24,230 --> 02:56:21,359
have

4616
02:56:26,389 --> 02:56:24,240
uh now come to light i want to get

4617
02:56:30,230 --> 02:56:26,399
everybody's opinions i want to get a

4618
02:56:30,630 --> 02:56:30,240
general feel about what is going on out

4619
02:56:35,110 --> 02:56:30,640
there

4620
02:56:37,190 --> 02:56:35,120
it's it's it's incredible

4621
02:56:39,670 --> 02:56:37,200
and here's the other here's the other

4622
02:56:42,870 --> 02:56:39,680
part and i and i really mean this

4623
02:56:45,830 --> 02:56:42,880
i want to leave you with uh this thought

4624
02:56:47,990 --> 02:56:45,840
just like i said earlier if this would

4625
02:56:49,910 --> 02:56:48,000
have happened and been revealed directly

4626
02:56:51,190 --> 02:56:49,920
in the front on the front end two years

4627
02:56:52,790 --> 02:56:51,200
ago nah

4628
02:56:55,349 --> 02:56:52,800
parlor wouldn't have happened wouldn't

4629
02:56:59,510 --> 02:56:55,359
have gotten off the ground

4630
02:57:02,550 --> 02:56:59,520
right that's really it but today

4631
02:57:04,309 --> 02:57:02,560
with coronavirus and the economy and all

4632
02:57:06,790 --> 02:57:04,319
the other things that are going on

4633
02:57:10,230 --> 02:57:06,800
around this country around the world

4634
02:57:11,990 --> 02:57:10,240
then the revelation of of parlor what is

4635
02:57:15,030 --> 02:57:12,000
happening right now

4636
02:57:18,469 --> 02:57:15,040
is it really even going to get

4637
02:57:22,710 --> 02:57:18,479
noticed right is it

4638
02:57:25,510 --> 02:57:22,720
is it it's it's explosive

4639
02:57:26,230 --> 02:57:25,520
but it's explosive two years ago is this

4640
02:57:28,870 --> 02:57:26,240
something that

4641
02:57:29,670 --> 02:57:28,880
is going to take hold today where people

4642
02:57:33,269 --> 02:57:29,680
are going to step

4643
02:57:34,150 --> 02:57:33,279
up and go whoa now i think that there

4644
02:57:37,670 --> 02:57:34,160
has been

4645
02:57:39,349 --> 02:57:37,680
an awful lot especially uh since

4646
02:57:42,710 --> 02:57:39,359
november 3rd today

4647
02:57:46,070 --> 02:57:42,720
is now november 16th so two weeks

4648
02:57:50,150 --> 02:57:46,080
it's two weeks since the election that

4649
02:57:53,349 --> 02:57:50,160
so many people out there have had their

4650
02:57:56,150 --> 02:57:53,359
worlds shifted and in some cases

4651
02:57:58,150 --> 02:57:56,160
shifted in a 24-hour period back and

4652
02:57:59,830 --> 02:57:58,160
forth and back and forth

4653
02:58:02,230 --> 02:57:59,840
with everything else with the

4654
02:58:04,550 --> 02:58:02,240
coronavirus numbers going through the

4655
02:58:05,510 --> 02:58:04,560
roof and we are heading into

4656
02:58:08,630 --> 02:58:05,520
thanksgiving

4657
02:58:10,230 --> 02:58:08,640
and and then into christmas and

4658
02:58:11,990 --> 02:58:10,240
and through the winter months what is

4659
02:58:15,590 --> 02:58:12,000
going on that

4660
02:58:16,230 --> 02:58:15,600
are they ready i'm serious it doesn't

4661
02:58:20,389 --> 02:58:16,240
matter

4662
02:58:23,590 --> 02:58:20,399
if you're on parlor or not is everybody

4663
02:58:25,670 --> 02:58:23,600
ready for this kind of another

4664
02:58:27,110 --> 02:58:25,680
i mean just a rug being pulled out from

4665
02:58:30,230 --> 02:58:27,120
under you

4666
02:58:31,190 --> 02:58:30,240
that's crazy and do you just go into

4667
02:58:33,910 --> 02:58:31,200
denial

4668
02:58:35,510 --> 02:58:33,920
where your protective mechanisms are

4669
02:58:38,870 --> 02:58:35,520
going to come into play

4670
02:58:41,910 --> 02:58:38,880
where your brain is like no more no more

4671
02:58:43,110 --> 02:58:41,920
i'm not i'm not dealing with this i i

4672
02:58:46,150 --> 02:58:43,120
just can't deal with is

4673
02:58:49,750 --> 02:58:46,160
is this what we're about to see

4674
02:58:53,269 --> 02:58:49,760
i think it's very interesting wow

4675
02:58:56,550 --> 02:58:53,279
absolutely crazy we got a category 5

4676
02:58:59,670 --> 02:58:56,560
hurricane landing right now in

4677
02:58:59,990 --> 02:58:59,680
the gulf of mexico nobody's talking

4678
02:59:03,269 --> 02:59:00,000
about

4679
02:59:06,870 --> 02:59:03,279
it the war just uh

4680
02:59:10,230 --> 02:59:06,880
uh ended and the the

4681
02:59:13,670 --> 02:59:10,240
armenian community is still going

4682
02:59:17,030 --> 02:59:13,680
through crazy things right now

4683
02:59:19,750 --> 02:59:17,040
right we've got stuff that the world is

4684
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dealing with that's crazy and then we

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have uh

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on top of everything and everything else

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now we've got two coronavirus vaccines

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that are 90 and the other one 95

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effective suddenly gets announced

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right it's it's crazy it's a crazy world

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right now that we find ourselves in i am

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glad i've got fade to black

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i am glad i have got fade to black and

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right now

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i know you are thinking the exact

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same thing i want to thank dave schrader

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uh

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another great conversation tonight thank

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you so much dave

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again the links for dave are over at

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murals jimmy church

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tomorrow night the new film is out and

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it's a hit

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that's right the end of quantum reality

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absolutely incredible don't forget

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tomorrow night rick

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delano is here i'm your host jimmy

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church

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until tomorrow night i want everybody to